Islam's 5 Pillars : Rape, Death, Misogyny, Suicide, and Hate

Religion of Peace Update

Published on August 23, 2004 By greywar In Politics

There have been a recent series of articles over at LGF that have once again sent me into a rage. Lets start here where a 16 year old girl who was on “trial” in a Sharia court for pre-marital sex (a capital offense in Islamist-backwater-shitholes like Iran). At the conclusion of her trial she was hanged personally by the judge who said that she was not hanged for her offense but because “She had a sharp tongue.” Which is an unforgivable offense in Islamist society as well, she should have just been quiet (oh wait she couldn’t stay quiet as she was forced to defend herself in her trial due to being denied counsel). For those folks who don’t click links or who can’t access the LGF site itself here is an excerpt.

Last Sunday in northern Iran, a 16-year old girl was hanged in public for the crime of having a sharp tongue. (Hat tip: Mentat.)

On Sunday, August 15, a 16-year-old girl in the town of Neka, northern Iran, was executed. Ateqeh Sahaleh was hanged in public on Simetry Street off Rah Ahan Street at the city center.

In her summary trial, the teenage victim did not have any lawyer and efforts by her family to recruit a lawyer was to no avail. Ateqeh personally defended herself.

The judge personally pursued Ateqeh’s death sentence, beyond all normal procedures and finally gained the approval of the Supreme Court. After her execution Rezai said her punishment was not execution but he had her executed for her “sharp tongue”.

Moving on…. Courtesy of Emperor Darth Misha I over at the Anti-Idiotarian Empire we have the charming story of a woman who was forced to marry her rapist to avoid “Muslim shunning”. I wont go into the full detail here as it is quite lengthy but I encourage you to go read it. I submit to you that simply being associated with a religion this vile should make you feel dirtier than an altar boy in a Boston parish after participating in “Bingo Night”.

Rounding out this cavalcade of horror we have Muslim women using their children as human shields in the Imam Ali Shrine in Nejef (the more correct spelling and pronunciation I am told). These women have been brainwashed into allowing Muqtada Al-Sadr to use their kids as pawns in his personal grab for power. Frankly I don’t know how the Islamic states manage positive population growth with this sort of disregard for their own offspring.

The capstone to all of this is an article that borders on the absurd. Go read this article about “the Genesis and Genius of Islam” then come back and tell me how the intellectual elite of this country got this far out of touch with reality.

I have had it with the “Religion of Peace” and all of its adherents. Talk all you like about extremism but you are all culpable in this now. It has gone on too long for you to hide behind your denials. Fix your religion and society or pay the price.

Comments (Page 4)

JURookie

on Aug 24, 2004

Dearmad....Absence of Religion IS a religion W. Von Goethe

Dearmad

on Aug 24, 2004

vonGoethe can bite me... oh he's dead. Rotting in the ground.... but we can swap quotes all day... what is YOUR opinion?

here:

Don Hirschberg:
Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color.

Richard Nixon:
"I would have made a good Pope."

Oh, and I can't resist these two by a famous fellow: "In every country and every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot ... they have perverted the purest religion ever preached to man into mystery and jargon, unintelligible to all mankind, and therefore the safer engine for their purpose." --- Thomas Jefferson, to Horatio Spafford, March 17, 1814
"Is uniformity attainable? Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced an inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth." --- Thomas Jefferson, from "Notes on Virginia" .

ttomm1946

on Aug 24, 2004

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Tom

SSG Geezer

on Aug 24, 2004

Dearmad, I am afraid I gave you an insightful for quoting Jefferson even though it is a hijacking of the thread.
Kuperman, post em up so we can read them. link to any comment you care to make with a note saying
here is my latest.
Baker , I hope you don't stop reading here. I know of a large number of so called "Christian " Groups that
would like to have seen the holocaust succeed. Aryan nation, Aryan Brotherhood, Identity, etc.
That does not mean that GW or I are knocking your faith or anyones faith. Heck if someone tries to stopyou
from going to church let us know, and we'll lock and load and square them away.

Gideon MacLeish

on Aug 24, 2004

Hitler was blessed for his action by Pope Pius the 12th.

As a nonCatholic, I continue to be offended by the generalizations of Christians as Catholics. There are a good deal of Christians who are not Catholic, and, in fact, some of them STOOD up to the Nazi regime and were executed for it (see Rev. Martin Neimoller and Deitrich Bonhoeffer). Being a Christian who has followed in the tradition of the aforementioned, I do not have to apologize for thoughts and feelings that are not/have never been mine or that of any Christian whose theology I espouse.

SpinMaster

on Aug 24, 2004

The Armenian Genocide is interesting in that Turkey actually uses the total absense of Armenians in Turkey as proofthat the genocide did not occur. "How can we have killed the Armenians? There are no Armenians to kill!"

it happened i'm armenian i know, my grandfather lived in turkey in 1915 and his father was kill by the turkish army my grand dad had to change his name & hid his armenian heritage so he would not be presucuted it happed and most of europe & canada have recognized it why turkey refusees to i don't understand why they don't addmit what happened, that was a long time ago during the ottaman days and people would understand it was a racist misatake of the times and would not even critize turkey for it. I'd also like to say i really like the modern turkey it's a shining example to all muslum nations.

joeKnowledge

on Aug 25, 2004

Amazing...

Manopeace

on Aug 25, 2004

Being a Christian who has followed in the tradition of the aforementioned, I do not have to apologize for thoughts and feelings that are not/have never been mine or that of any Christian whose theology I espouse.

And aploogise you shoudn't. I was not talking about Christians Gideon, I was refering to people that call themselves Christians. There IS a difference of being one and calling yourself one.
Many Christians gave their lives to help save Jewish people during the holocaust. The present Pope, who was a Monsignor in Poland during the war was involved in an undergroung movement that smuggled Jewish children to safety. He is personally responsible for saving the lives of hundreds of them.
Please forgive me Gideon if I offended you, it was not a Christian like yourself that I was refering to.

greywar

on Aug 25, 2004

Ref the Cathloic/Christian /Holocaust business - in a rare "defense" of Il Papa (JP not Pious) it is well to remember that one of the major party nations resposible for hitler's downfall was far and away majority chirstian (the us for the hard of thinkin). (mark it down, i defended the religious sections of the world)

people would understand it was a racist misatake of the times and would not even critize turkey for it.

I think they would be more than just criticized if they admitted it. In the dipmlomacy world doing something and having the world know about it is a lot different than owning up to it.

kingbee

on Aug 25, 2004

after reading through the entire thread at lgf (all that were there til tuesday morning my time), i'm left wondering why saddam's relatively secular regime was chosen to change (or change first) since our actions will almost certainly produce another islamic nation? (gene was good enough to point out this question didnt belong at the western pillar site where i first posed it--and provided a reasonable answer--thanks gene!)

greywar

on Aug 25, 2004

(or change first)

A good question actually, my personal theory (not knowing the Presidents personal thoughts) is that the terrain and political climate were most conducive to making an example out of Saddam. Additionally despite the secular nature of his power he was also a heinous shit. Despicable acts are not limited to the religious.

Gideon MacLeish

on Aug 25, 2004

I don't think it's fair to call Islam "a religion of peace" anymore than it is to label Christianity or Judaism as such. True, there are many wonderful Muslim people who have tirelessly devoted themselves to the cause of peace, as have many Christians, Jews, Buddhists, atheists...just about any faith you can imagine. But there are also many Muslims who have tirelessly devoted themselves to conflict (as there are in the other religions as well). So, to label Islam, or any religion, a religion of peace while many of its adherents are actively proving otherwise, is remaining ignorant of the facts.

As I pointed out in my article "I am NOT a role model", the actions of even a minority can impact the perception we have of the group itself, as they are seen as emissaries of the group. In this thread, I do not know of a single Muslim that has spoken out in defense of their faith; correct me if I'm wrong. I would encourage any Muslims that are reading this to speak up and be ambassadors of your faith on this thread.

bzjaffe

on Aug 25, 2004

We should make sure that we do not make this an anti-Muslim discussion. If we were to do that then we would have similiar intolerances that the terrorists have towards us. Having said that, I agree with Kuperman, and many other, that Islam has had problems since the beginning, starting with the slaughter of the Jews in Medina. Now, if you were to look at a map of the world, wherever there are the fringes of Islam there is war. In southeast Asia, India, Israel, Chechniya and Africa Islam is causing war and trying to overtake all that are non-Muslims. Maybe this is a minority that has overtaken a great relegion (Daniel Pipes says that only 10% of Muslims are 'extremsits'), but we must stop ignoring what is happening worldwide. It is WWIII. And people still blame it on Israeli occupation and western Imperialism etc, etc.

Secondly, Israel gains so much support from the USA that Muslims feel they are being neglected and castigated.

(posted by adnauseam). That's using one bad excuse for a lot of violence.

bakerstreet

on Aug 25, 2004

"And aploogise you shoudn't. I was not talking about Christians Gideon, I was refering to people that call themselves Christians."

Liar. You were talking about Christians as a "global group" and therefore all of us. Do I think you meant it "seriously"? Nope, I think you constantly talk out of your ass. Doesn't change what you said, though.

"Reply #10 By: Manopeace - 8/23/2004 4:20:58 PM

Has Christianity, as a global group, taken a stand against the bombing of innocent civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki 59 years ago? Have they condemned the slaughter of 6 million Jews in Eastern Europe 60 years ago?"

Heydre

on Aug 25, 2004

BakerStreet,

Your intelligent commentary is obscured by your need to belittle others. Through reading your comments from many articles I am not sure if your intent is to convince someone or abuse them.

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