Islam's 5 Pillars : Rape, Death, Misogyny, Suicide, and Hate

Religion of Peace Update

Published on August 23, 2004 By greywar In Politics

There have been a recent series of articles over at LGF that have once again sent me into a rage. Lets start here where a 16 year old girl who was on “trial” in a Sharia court for pre-marital sex (a capital offense in Islamist-backwater-shitholes like Iran). At the conclusion of her trial she was hanged personally by the judge who said that she was not hanged for her offense but because “She had a sharp tongue.” Which is an unforgivable offense in Islamist society as well, she should have just been quiet (oh wait she couldn’t stay quiet as she was forced to defend herself in her trial due to being denied counsel). For those folks who don’t click links or who can’t access the LGF site itself here is an excerpt.

Last Sunday in northern Iran, a 16-year old girl was hanged in public for the crime of having a sharp tongue. (Hat tip: Mentat.)

On Sunday, August 15, a 16-year-old girl in the town of Neka, northern Iran, was executed. Ateqeh Sahaleh was hanged in public on Simetry Street off Rah Ahan Street at the city center.

In her summary trial, the teenage victim did not have any lawyer and efforts by her family to recruit a lawyer was to no avail. Ateqeh personally defended herself.

The judge personally pursued Ateqeh’s death sentence, beyond all normal procedures and finally gained the approval of the Supreme Court. After her execution Rezai said her punishment was not execution but he had her executed for her “sharp tongue”.

Moving on…. Courtesy of Emperor Darth Misha I over at the Anti-Idiotarian Empire we have the charming story of a woman who was forced to marry her rapist to avoid “Muslim shunning”. I wont go into the full detail here as it is quite lengthy but I encourage you to go read it. I submit to you that simply being associated with a religion this vile should make you feel dirtier than an altar boy in a Boston parish after participating in “Bingo Night”.

Rounding out this cavalcade of horror we have Muslim women using their children as human shields in the Imam Ali Shrine in Nejef (the more correct spelling and pronunciation I am told). These women have been brainwashed into allowing Muqtada Al-Sadr to use their kids as pawns in his personal grab for power. Frankly I don’t know how the Islamic states manage positive population growth with this sort of disregard for their own offspring.

The capstone to all of this is an article that borders on the absurd. Go read this article about “the Genesis and Genius of Islam” then come back and tell me how the intellectual elite of this country got this far out of touch with reality.

I have had it with the “Religion of Peace” and all of its adherents. Talk all you like about extremism but you are all culpable in this now. It has gone on too long for you to hide behind your denials. Fix your religion and society or pay the price.

Comments (Page 3)

Draginol

on Aug 24, 2004

IMHO the Israel-Palestine conflict is THE key subject in the problems between the Western and the Arabic World anyway. The Palestinians (and the numerous arabic people expressing solidarity with them) feel treated unjust, to say the least, and are angry with Israel and the US as Israels major ally and protector. This is a primal source of hate against the US and what it stands for, and facilitates both active and passive support of terrorism.
I think the policy of Israels current administration is problematic and provocative. I understand the security concerns that they have, but the fence they're building will create more unrest and rejection than it contains. And as long as new settlements are built or extended at will every week, I can't see a lasting peace in the region. There is a strong religious conviction ("chosen land") on this side, too! But nobody and nothing will make the Palestinians there disappear, Israel will have to arrange themselves with their neighbours under fair conditions for both sides. Then it would be much harder to promote the anti-americanism as well.

Ah yes, it's always the jews fault isn't it? cleric/judge in Iran hangs a 16 year old girl for having premarital sex. The reason? Israel. Makes sense.

established

on Aug 24, 2004

"Ah yes, it's always the jews fault isn't it?"

I didn't say that, nor did I want to express that. It's clearly not "the fault of the jews". This would only be another generalisation and I think we already had enough. I've been reading here since the beginning, I saw a lot of interesting and well done postings, a lot of rubbish and childish arguments as well

(the upcoming elections seem to never leave you alone), and I thought it was time to write something by myself. I'm sorry if I went too far away from the initial post, I tried to explain why it's very problematic to set equal terrorism and Islam several posts up the page, and the mention of the Palestinians made me come back and write a bit in another direction.

Larry Kuperman

on Aug 24, 2004

Islam is, since it's inception, anti-Jewish. Proof?

The Prophet Mohammed had 800 Jews beheaded at Medina, after they surrendered and threw themselves on his mercy. From the Quran, which says: ""And He made you heirs of their lands, their houses and their goods, and of a land which ye had not frequented before, And Allah has power over all things." (33:27) See http://www.yahoodi.com/peace/muhammad.html

What crime had they commited to be treated so harshly? They refused to convert. "Desire ye them that for your sakes the Jews should believe? Yet a part of them heard the word of God, and then,... perverted it." (2:70)

But the hatred of non-Muslims is not confined to Jews. The Quran says "Contract no friendships except among your own number. Others would certainly corrupt you. They desire your humiliation: their hatred is clear enough in what they say, but what their hearts conceal is even worse. . ." (3:118)

Turkey and the Armenians and Greeks for example. "Between April and October 1915, when some 1.2 million Armenians were deported from their homes by the Turkish Government and sent on a death march into the Syrian desert with no food or water. Similar was the fate of hundreds of thousands Pontian Greeks. Yet until today Turkey has yet to admit to these horrific crimes." Source: http://www.diaspora-net.org/Turkey/Armenian_Genocide.html

In 1860, as many as 70,000 Christians were slaughtered by the Druze Moslems at Mount Lebanon. For more modern events, read the open letter from Nagi N. Najjar, Director of the Lebanon Foundation for Peace, to the organization Human Rights Watch regarding the events at the Sabra and Chatilla Palestinian camps, events for which Ariel Sharon is blamed. The letter cites these events leading up to the attacks by Christian Militia against Palestinians:

* The massacre of the town of Chekka, in northern Lebanon, by Arafat forces, dozens of civilians, mostly Christians, were murdered and tortured by Arafat's hoodlums.

* In the massacre of the town of Damour, South of Beirut, dozens of Christians civilians were slaughtered, along with numerous rapes of young girls, were done by forces that came from those same Palestinian camps that you are defending.

* The massacre of the towns of Aintoura and Mtein, where groups of Palestinians murdered innocent Christian civilians solely because they were Christians .

See http://www.free-lebanon.com/LFPNews/Witnesses/witnesses.html for the complete letter.

The mass rape of black Africans in the Sudan as part of a racial cleansing policy by the Muslim Janhaweed is another example of Islamic hatred. Some of the "women" raped have been as young as eight years old. Shocking? Of course it is. But if you study the Quran you will find that the Prophet Mohammed took a six-year old bride when he was 50.

You can verify any of these postings or do a quick search on Google. In fact I encourage you to independently verify Islams attitudes to other religions as set done in the Quran and put into practice by Mohammed himself. These aren't isolated incidents, these are core beliefs.

greywar

on Aug 24, 2004

The mass rape of black Africans in the Sudan as part of a racial cleansing policy by the Muslim Janhaweed is another example of Islamic hatred. Some of the "women" raped have been as young as eight years old.

I had an article on that a while back too although I didn't catch the 8yr old bit (for which I am somehow thankful).

Good reasearch, almost an article of it's own right there.

The Armenian Genocide is interesting in that Turkey actually uses the total absense of Armenians in Turkey as proofthat the genocide did not occur. "How can we have killed the Armenians? There are no Armenians to kill!"

adnauseam

on Aug 24, 2004

Islam IS a religion of peace. The reason that many Islamists rebel, is twofold: First,there are millions of Mohammedans who feel the World is against Islam and thus they rebel and hit back at their detractors. Secondly, Israel gains so much support from the USA that Muslims feel they are being neglected and castigated. We should, however, not forget that for every rebel/bomber/Al Quaeda member/angry Muslim, there are ten in the USA, Britain and other countries who practise their religion quietly, with due deference to Allah (PBUH) and only want to live in peace and harmony!

Sir Peter Maxwell

on Aug 24, 2004

We should, however, not forget that for every rebel/bomber/Al Quaeda member/angry Muslim, there are ten in the USA, Britain and other countries who practise their religion quietly, with due deference to Allah

I do not think the ratio of ten peaceful Muslims in the west, to every one violent Muslim in the Muslim world is quite accurate.

I am disgusted that there are actually people in England that are not C of E.

Sir Peter Maxwell

on Aug 24, 2004

C of E.

In case any Americans ask, C of E signifies the Church of England.

Sir Peter Maxwell

on Aug 24, 2004

If you are referring to my tring to get the peter of the site banned as divisivness, so be it, thank God, most others seem to disagree with you.

The lack of comments on your hateful anti-Maxwellian articles would suggest otherwise.

You are a bigot, and I commend BakerStreet for speaking his wise truth, which he does without influence of Maxwellianism.

JURookie

on Aug 24, 2004

Of all the unmitigated, unparrelled bunch of tree hugging nonsense. 1. Muslim is flawed because it is a counterfeit version of christianity. 2. Because the people are kept ignorant of what it means to be loving and kind 3. Because Muslims do not practice the "love your enemies" mindset. I, for one, am sick to death of people pointing at fringe christians that give the faith a bad name because of their human flaws. Christianity isn't flawed.....the people that claim to be Christians and act the opposite are flawed. What kind of malfunctioning neuron would even assume to understand that in its very ESSENCE Islam is a lie based on a power grab from a middle eastern theif turned false prophet named Mohammed?

Abe Cubbage

on Aug 24, 2004

I do not think the ratio of ten peaceful Muslims in the west, to every one violent Muslim in the Muslim world is quite accurate.

Well, there are something like 850 million Muslims in India and Asia and add that to what ever the number is for western (and other) countries. Then compare that number to the number of extremist Muslims. I think that you will find that the ratio is actually greater than 10 to 1.

Larry Kuperman

on Aug 24, 2004

Good reasearch, almost an article of it's own right there.

Thank you, I will probably post such an article in the near future. BTW, and please don't take this as a plug, but I have several articles on my blog that I spent a lot of time researching, some dealing with anti-Semiticism. I am just hesitant to repeat them, although the JoeUser audience has changed.

Islam IS a religion of peace.

adnauseum, do you have any support? Links that you wish to post? Articles to reference? I am open to them.
I would say that many Muslims are peaceful people, on whom I wish salaam. But if you accept the Quran at face value ("verbatim" bein g a Latin word seems out of place to use in this context) then I would disagree with you and please see the links that I offered. You won't find the equivalent of "Blessed be the peacemakers for theirs shall be the Kingdom of Heaven."

Of course, you won't find much of that in the Old Testament either, but that is not under discussion.

The Prophet Mohammed was a man whose life is well chronicled in history. He led warriors into combat, he had multiple wives, some of whom were taken from their peoples by force. (Including a Jewish wife.) The religion that came from what he dictated, perhaps directed by the Angel Gabriel, perhaps not, was a religion that was intended to appeal to warriors. And it did and does today. It is a religion that, at its core, says "There is us and there is them and we will fight against them until there is only us." NOT a peaceful religion.

Now people often say "I know what my Holy Book says (you can fill in the blank with Torah, New Testament, Quran, whatever) but that is allegory and what I practice will be different." There are many Muslims who are peaceful. But when discussing the core values of the religion, you have to go back to the founding principles as laid out in the text and the founder of that religion.

Therefore I stand by what I said.

greywar

on Aug 24, 2004

Teacher -

Christianity isn't flawed.....the people that claim to be Christians and act the opposite are flawed.

This would be approriate perhaps as a comment on an article comparing religions. This is not one of those. Note the lack of a comaprison to Christianity anywhere in my article.

Adnauseaum -

It is to these people that my article speaks. It is not enough to have the live and let live attitude when it comes to your own society/populace. When you do not actively condemn through deed or at least word then you are giving your tacit approval.

Kupe -

please don't take this as a plug

heck I like plugs, never hesitate to link to articles of your own on related topics. It is a the best form of commentary and sensible cross promotion as well.

JURookie

on Aug 24, 2004

Greywar, I never insinuated that your article said anything about anything. I was responding to some of the posts such as the ones that DID compare the religions.

Dearmad

on Aug 24, 2004

Religion, as a whole, is a sick, perverted lifestyle choice. I think religious people ought to not be allowed to get married, in fact. Deplorable lifestyle choice no matter how you look at it.

Ick, I feel dirty just typing in a thread that reeks of religion.

ttomm1946

on Aug 24, 2004

Hi

I don't like flame wars much but in spite of what some have said Islam is a very flawed religion that calls for the killing of non muslims...Mohammed himself was a murderer and a man full of hate and hypocrosy....

Nothing spiritual about that man..it's fashionable today to bash Christianity by people who just don't get it and prefer their own rules..there is no flaw in Christianity itself just some of the people..so flame away...someone has to maybe stop turning ye old cheek a little.

Tom:)

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