Islam's 5 Pillars : Rape, Death, Misogyny, Suicide, and Hate

Religion of Peace Update

Published on August 23, 2004 By greywar In Politics

There have been a recent series of articles over at LGF that have once again sent me into a rage. Lets start here where a 16 year old girl who was on “trial” in a Sharia court for pre-marital sex (a capital offense in Islamist-backwater-shitholes like Iran). At the conclusion of her trial she was hanged personally by the judge who said that she was not hanged for her offense but because “She had a sharp tongue.” Which is an unforgivable offense in Islamist society as well, she should have just been quiet (oh wait she couldn’t stay quiet as she was forced to defend herself in her trial due to being denied counsel). For those folks who don’t click links or who can’t access the LGF site itself here is an excerpt.

Last Sunday in northern Iran, a 16-year old girl was hanged in public for the crime of having a sharp tongue. (Hat tip: Mentat.)

On Sunday, August 15, a 16-year-old girl in the town of Neka, northern Iran, was executed. Ateqeh Sahaleh was hanged in public on Simetry Street off Rah Ahan Street at the city center.

In her summary trial, the teenage victim did not have any lawyer and efforts by her family to recruit a lawyer was to no avail. Ateqeh personally defended herself.

The judge personally pursued Ateqeh’s death sentence, beyond all normal procedures and finally gained the approval of the Supreme Court. After her execution Rezai said her punishment was not execution but he had her executed for her “sharp tongue”.

Moving on…. Courtesy of Emperor Darth Misha I over at the Anti-Idiotarian Empire we have the charming story of a woman who was forced to marry her rapist to avoid “Muslim shunning”. I wont go into the full detail here as it is quite lengthy but I encourage you to go read it. I submit to you that simply being associated with a religion this vile should make you feel dirtier than an altar boy in a Boston parish after participating in “Bingo Night”.

Rounding out this cavalcade of horror we have Muslim women using their children as human shields in the Imam Ali Shrine in Nejef (the more correct spelling and pronunciation I am told). These women have been brainwashed into allowing Muqtada Al-Sadr to use their kids as pawns in his personal grab for power. Frankly I don’t know how the Islamic states manage positive population growth with this sort of disregard for their own offspring.

The capstone to all of this is an article that borders on the absurd. Go read this article about “the Genesis and Genius of Islam” then come back and tell me how the intellectual elite of this country got this far out of touch with reality.

I have had it with the “Religion of Peace” and all of its adherents. Talk all you like about extremism but you are all culpable in this now. It has gone on too long for you to hide behind your denials. Fix your religion and society or pay the price.

Comments (Page 2)

SSG Geezer

on Aug 23, 2004

A trolling is all we can do, sadly.
I think Gene has found one of the liberals Mona Charens book is about.

greywar

on Aug 23, 2004

People, en masse, can overcome a single leader or government. The government can't kill all it's subjects, can it?

This was actually the entire point beebles. The fact that the populations are NOT revolting against these acts stands as testimony to their tacit approval.

kingbee

on Aug 23, 2004

all the more reason for both political parties in our country to free themselves from the growing encroachment of religious fundamentalists (it is impossible to win the republican presidential nomination without endorsement from imams falwell, robertson, et al; it may not be possible to be elected president no matter your party affiliation if catholic cardinals and bishops in charge of large dioceses inform the faithful it is a moral wrong to vote for candidates who don't comply with church doctrine). this is how we end up with a president and lawmakers who can equivocate the teaching of creationism and similar 10th century dogma as somehow being valid and acceptable educational alternatives to 21st century science.

established

on Aug 23, 2004

I'd really like to see "one of us" (western world) in a traditional, muslim, arabic country with the typical background, education and access (or not) to medias. I'm not sure whether revolting against the government would be our first concern...

I think our primary objective should be to encourage and support the transition in these countries to more modern and open societies, and bombs are not able to do much of this work. Oh, don't say it's not our problem: the world just doesn't work "every country for itself" anymore. Germany has not become a friend of the US because of the bombs that were dropped on it in the 2nd WW, it became a friend (and it's still one

) because of the generosity and the good example (versus stalinism) that was shown after it.
I know, politics are not a good place for idealism, we'll need a good deal of force as well, but force alone won't take us anywhere, we'll have to give a good example, to be the good example, something to strive for, and to be able to back up our positions in the same time. In the USA of today I can see the power to back up positions with force - but it seems difficult for me to see the good example, the way to go, and a clear, sound direction in foreign affairs.

To your "5 pillars of Islam" - I think we should be very careful not to insult a whole religion across the board. It is clear that the above mentioned case is totally barbaric and backward. But equating terrorism and islam would be the worst thing to do: we'd only make potential millions join the ranks of terror and battle against freedom and human values. The terrorists are pushed by a very extremistic view of their religion, yes, Islam plays an important role, but one could find a lot of "justifications" for drastic measures in the Old Testament as well. It's only a question of interpreting the necessary reasons and aims.

SpinMaster

on Aug 24, 2004

You also have to factor in that most of the people in the mid east are uneducated & somewhere around 45% bealive it or not are under 16 and easiliy munipulated by exteremists who claim that what they say is the "word od God". Just recently i saw on CNN that in Iraq 10 year olds and younger were fighting for al-Sadar and acually engaging in battle with U.S. soliders these kids don't know better and as long as there out fighting for a al-sadar or some other nut, they never will know better and so won't his son and his son's son and so on, and the U.S. & Iraqi government must must understand that education not Democracy (though it helps) is the TURE key to a stong peacful country just look at any country with a 95%+ Leteracy rate...

Manopeace

on Aug 24, 2004

Has ISLAM condemned the holocaust?

Islam had nothing to do with the holocaust. Hitler was blessed for his action by Pope Pius the 12th. Yes, apologies were made about this by the present administration of the Catholic Church, but there are still many "Christians" out there that still think the holocaust was justified.
Baker, if you read my blogs you might see that I am NOT the bitter person you might think I am. All I am trying to get across on this site is that many awful things happened in the history of mankind; I just want to make sure these things do not happen again...to anyone. How this can be interpreted as bitterness is beyond me.

greywar

on Aug 24, 2004

Islam had nothing to do with the holocaust.

He never asked if they had anything to do with the holocaust just whether they condemned it which of course they have not. Islam has long been a chief holocaust denier or even worse applauder.

cactoblasta

on Aug 24, 2004

Who exactly do you mean by Islam? If you include Indonesian and Malaysian Muslims, then lots have condemned it. But if you insist on believing that only Arabs can be Muslims, then of course you're only going to find what you're looking for. There's no love lost between Semites (Palestinians included) and Arabs.

bakerstreet

on Aug 24, 2004

"...but there are still many "Christians" out there that still think the holocaust was justified."

Many? And you know this how? You've spoken with them? Many of them? You seem to know very little about Christianity and its role in the holocaust. You twist Hitler's relationship with the Pope, you lump all Christians together with what was the smallest minority at the time, and you pretend that Hitler was Christian when history simply does not bear that out at all.

Honestly, you are a sickening human being, and after reading your posts here at JU for some time now I have *zero* respect for you. There are people here that I disagree with 100% of the time, but frankly at least I can have some respect for them. You can fall back on the "I just want to make sure these things do not happen again...to anyone" silliness, but in reality you just fall back on the arguement to make whatever point you want to make, and slur entire groups of people to do it. Your attitude has nothing to do with peace, and since you have been here I have seen you foster far, far more division.

I think this is the last time I will ever respond to your foolishness, as I eagerly await a "filter" button...

greywar

on Aug 24, 2004

Indonesian and Malaysian Muslims, then lots have condemned it.

Oh you mean like Malaysian Prime Minister Matahir Bin Mohamad? Right...... Try again

greywar

on Aug 24, 2004

Update : A lovely quote from an Malaysian muslim page

The Jews in Hollywood are training the American people for the coming war with China. You better get ready and pray you don't end up in the internment camps when the war comes ... the Jewish hollywood is the beginning. You know you mentally prepare your people before you send them to war. Check out the names of the producers and writers [of Red Corner] and you'll realized it'l all JEWS!!! Wake up Asian and WASP! Jews are building anti-Asian movement in USA. [sic]

established

on Aug 24, 2004

"There's no love lost between Semites (Palestinians included) and Arabs."

IMHO the Israel-Palestine conflict is THE key subject in the problems between the Western and the Arabic World anyway. The Palestinians (and the numerous arabic people expressing solidarity with them) feel treated unjust, to say the least, and are angry with Israel and the US as Israels major ally and protector. This is a primal source of hate against the US and what it stands for, and facilitates both active and passive support of terrorism.
I think the policy of Israels current administration is problematic and provocative. I understand the security concerns that they have, but the fence they're building will create more unrest and rejection than it contains. And as long as new settlements are built or extended at will every week, I can't see a lasting peace in the region. There is a strong religious conviction ("chosen land") on this side, too! But nobody and nothing will make the Palestinians there disappear, Israel will have to arrange themselves with their neighbours under fair conditions for both sides. Then it would be much harder to promote the anti-americanism as well.

Manopeace

on Aug 24, 2004

I think this is the last time I will ever respond to your foolishness, as I eagerly await a "filter" button...

I beg you to keep your word here BakerStreet...your comments are based always on what you think you read, nothing at all about what was actually said. If you are referring to my tring to get the peter of the site banned as divisivness, so be it, thank God, most others seem to disagree with you.

greywar

on Aug 24, 2004

But nobody and nothing will make the Palestinians there disappear,

Joran, Syria, and Lebanon each giving some Arab land to the Palestinians would settle it quite nicely, excepting the fact that the entire "Palestine" thing is simply a stalking horse for the real objective which is for the Jews to be driven into the sea.

Baker and Mano - keep it at least on the issues raised in the article or the thread. Leave the inter-personal sniping for email please.

LadyCleve

on Aug 24, 2004

Any comments I would make have already been made, so I will keep it to--Nice post, I agree with you all the way!

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