I did not see it as tainting muslims period, just Europeans and their lack of a backbone.  Or did I miss something?

And DR, thanks for saving those posts of DSH.  I was glad to be reminded of the only person that I would ever consider blacklisting.

Except actually doing anything yes. The guy kidnapped children and his location is a known. This is why we have law enforcment and SWAT. Trying "all legal" means to get kids back from a kidnapper is like asking the nice mugger to please give back your wallet and stop stabbing you. This is exactly the sort of attitude that pervades the UN and Old Europe. All talk, zero action.

This is far from an isolated incident. Check out the Religion of Peace series I have been doing.

Anyone have a source for this? Davey sure didn't and Google has no fucking idea about it. Anyone?

Here it is.  It is very disturbing too!

http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/12/20/missouri.fetus/index.html

Oh i misread his screed (probably because I paid about 1 second of attention to it (Davey's not Sol's)), I knew about the woman (also a nutbag) I assumed he was talking about Americans cutting an Arab or Muslim child from a woman there. What do internal crimes have to do with this? People in Islamic countries can kill each other off or commit crimes against other folks of their nation all they want. This crime crosses international borders in the name of Koranic Law. Whole nother hill of beans here folks. While this woman is certainly disturbed and should be put down like a rabid dog she is not advocating that her philosophy be adopted forcibly if necessary by the "infidel" world. When hordes of whackjob women crowd the streets calling for a baby-cutting Jihad against pregnant women I will place it in the same category. As Sol points out there are lots of cases of internal kidnappings. The things I am tolaking about are NOT internal problems. This is where Islam runs into trouble. It thinks all the world needs to be converted and wills top at nothing to include kidnappings, school bus bombings, and training their infants to carry out Jihad.

sigh the danger here ziein is that the Muslim world will force us to "deal with it" as I stated in this article.

There are in fact a billion Muslims yes, but there are no Muslim superpowers. Heck there are barely any Muslim nations who qualify as "powers" and yes I am including nuclear Pakistan in this. While Pak may pose a threat to India any moves it makes outside that arena are laughable as a threat.

I do not hate Muslims. I just want Muslims to step up to the plate and police up their own people. Don't make us do it for you.

Ziein - here you are:) From the horses mouth as it were (from the linked article)

thanks for the comment though, you challenged my position and kept it civil. I like commentary and debate like that and I thank you and Solitair for opposing my opinions in a constructive way.