We learned these rules in kindergarten people!
Published on September 28, 2004 By greywar In Current Events

     This morning I listened to NPR's coverage of the "hearings" over the mistaken medal placement of Paul Hamm. Paul himself had some sound bites and stated that he would "fight to keep his medal". Hey Paul how about struggling to earn  the fucking medal next time? I can't believe it takes hearings to sort this out! They should have just had a Romanian powerlifter go over and take the damn thing from him and stick the silver medal he did earn up his tear stained little ass.

     For fucks sake what happened is the same thing as if they had been approaching the awards pedestal and the greeter accidentally directed the wrong guy to stand on the Gold spot. Would that guy feel justified in saying "Well thats what they said! I should keep it!"? I think not. Why this assclown thinks it will do him, the country, or his sport any good to carry on like a spoiled two year old is beyond my ability to comprehend.

     To Paul Hamm: Look fuckpole, you won't be getting any endorsement bucks as "the guy who got a medal he didn't fucking win". Quit pissing in the sandbox out of spite and give the other kid back what is his.

 

F.E.T.E. (derived from Darth Misha I)


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on Sep 28, 2004
but if you are going to go back and change a decision because one judging mistake was made, how can you not take into consideration the other judging mistake that was made in the event


Well, I think that if the SK delegation can prove that they were lied to about the start value or if they weren't allowed to protest during the allotted time, then I think the door should be open for a reversal... But if it comes down to the coaches not doing their jobs... too bad.
on Sep 28, 2004
if the SK delegation can prove that they were lied to about the start value or if they weren't allowed to protest during the allotted time,


That I can agree with.
on Sep 28, 2004
This seems to be a pretty clear case of the FIG wanting to shift the focus from themselves to Hamm, which has apparently succeeded (sort of "you'll solve this for us if you give it up"). The underlying and IMO more important issue is that scoring errors were made in the Hamm / Yang case, and then after Alexei Nemov's high bar routine when a Malaysian judged changed the scores after the crowd booed so long.

In Salt Lake it was the pair skating routine involving the Canadians and the Russions...in Sydney it was the women's gymnastics vault...and in 1994 (Albertville?), it was Nancy Kerrigan getting bashed in the knee, coming out with a silver in spite of the fact that her performance was better technically but Oksana Baiul's was more artistic. (Beats me why artistry wins over technical skill in a sporting competition).

Bottom line: In events where judges make the decisions instead of stopwatches, there is always going to be controversy. The reflection on the athlete is the grace with which they handle it. I think Paul Hamm could've handled this one a lot worse.

-A.
on Sep 28, 2004
We might as well just trash the Olympics if the South Koreans win their appeal, because in the future, Olympics will be decided 3 to 4 weeks or more after the fact in a court of law. This is ridiculous, and, quite frankly, not even worth the time it took me to write this response, let alone to read the article.
on Sep 28, 2004
We might as well just trash the Olympics if the South Koreans win their appeal, because in the future, Olympics will be decided 3 to 4 weeks or more after the fact in a court of law. This is ridiculous, and, quite frankly, not even worth the time it took me to write this response, let alone to read the article.


(mockingly) What? Appeals and lawsuits don't make things better?

-A.
on Sep 28, 2004
"What? Appeals and lawsuits don't make things better?"


Yes, apparently you can see if someone is a "whiny bitch" if they defend themselves... If he floats, he's a witch.

I rarely disagree with greywar so totally, but this time it seems pretty wacked-out to me. I'm gonna start reviewing tapes of old sporting events for errors so I can place bets. ESPN meets CourtTV!! I'll make a mint...

on Sep 28, 2004
I agree with Greywar on this one. The Korean did a harder routine better. That's the facts.
on Sep 28, 2004

I agree with Greywar on this one. The Korean did a harder routine better. That's the facts.


Yes, and I'm sure many a Superbowl was ended with an unnoticed holding call. Should we go back and review them all to make sure the right person won?


There's a time, and a place, to challenge a routine's start value. After the conclusion of the contest is neither.

on Sep 29, 2004
I think they should just give everybody who came to the Olympics a gold medal. Even the Security Guards and spectators.
on Sep 29, 2004

Geez, you think you know people.

I know who knows me, and only those whom I have actually met would fall into that category.

 

What is the precendent this sets? Easy for all the folks who bitch about the timing of the complaint... Every single time you compete file a protest immediately after every  contest so that when the FIG fucks shit up like this other folks won't say that it is the competetors fault for not lodging a protest immediately after being told everything is cool. Thats fucking retarded.

 

Instead of having a gymnast who can be held up as a model of good sportsmanship and attitude, we have one who looks and sounds like a jackass.

on Sep 29, 2004
The Korean did a harder routine better. That's the facts.


But the event was the combination of 6 routines. The Korean could have locked things up with a tenth of a point on any of half a dozen opportunities.

I don't think Hamm should cough up his medal without being told to do so; everyone involved knew (or should have known) the rules, agreed to compete by them, and should have been prepared to live with the results.

I do agree that he needs to shut up about it now, though, if for no other reason than that his voice sounds like his balls never dropped.
on Sep 29, 2004

if for no other reason than that his voice sounds like his balls never dropped

the very root of my article right there.

on Sep 29, 2004
if for no other reason than that his voice sounds like his balls never dropped

the very root of my article right there.


Did you guys REALLY expect a male GYMNAST to be the picture of masculinity? C'mon, that's as silly as thinking Brian Boitano's STRAIGHT!
on Sep 29, 2004
if for no other reason than that his voice sounds like his balls never dropped

the very root of my article right there.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
on Sep 30, 2004
We might as well just trash the Olympics if the South Koreans win their appeal, because in the future, Olympics will be decided 3 to 4 weeks or more after the fact in a court of law. This is ridiculous, and, quite frankly, not even worth the time it took me to write this response, let alone to read the article.


Exactly!

There are 2 problems with this whiny blog.

#1: The sport is not decided upon merit, but by subjective judges. People are fallible, and they make mistakes. Get use to it.

#2: You dont change the outcome of a game a month after the fact. You appeal then and there, or just chalk it up to a blown call. They go both ways so sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.

Next time greywar, before calling the pot whiny, make sure the kettle is not squealing.
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