This man is an AssenKlownenn!
Published on May 18, 2004 By greywar In Current Events

I am sure Iran would be only to happy to cooperate in this little gem of a plan : (edit - Shroeder didn't mention Iran this is sarcasm on my part. Hat tip to Gerry Atrick for the heads up on vagueness)

"I have doubts whether NATO is the best instrument available to bring stability there," Schroeder told reporters after meeting with Belgian Prime Minister Guy Verhofstadt.

Schroeder, who ruled out any role for German troops in Iraq even before the U.S.-led invasion, said Iraqis would probably see NATO troops as occupiers.

It would be better for Muslim countries to send a stability force, he said. "They are better equipped to get the necessary trust" from Iraqis.

Credit : Yahoo and LGF

     The Mullahs are drooling as we speak! This is the E.U.'s idea of diplomatic initiative? I say again AssenKlownenn!


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on May 18, 2004
AssenKlownenn! I almost shot coffee out my nose!
on May 18, 2004
Wow! He really hates Iraqis!
on May 18, 2004
Greywar,
This seemed like a fairly innocuous comment to me. Nowhere here does Schroeder mention Iran. There are many Muslim nations in the world besides Iran.
Quick question for you...which is the largest Muslim country in the world? Answer: Indonesia.
Indonesian, Malaysian, Somalian troops could all be sent in under the banner of the UN.
I saw you recently chide someone for making posting comments 'beneath' them. Usually I have great respect for your articles/comments 'from the other side' but feel this article is below your usual standards.
Gerry
on May 18, 2004
Gerry - Actually the title was meant as sarcasm intended to heap scorn on the content of the rest of the article which was just as ridiculous. Gerhardt went on to say that he wanted *local* Arab nations to be the peacekeepers. nation like say Jordan, Syria, Saudi and so on... The Arab league itself immediately denounced the plan as "stupid". All those nations surrounding would have a vested interest in simply taking over while they were there. This would of course necessitate *another* invasion by a foreign power. The idea that Iraqi's would welcome Arabs from other tribes as peacekeeps is also patently retarded. Think the US has some region rivalry? Nothin compared to the neighboring nations there. As fo Indonesia I don't think inviting in some of Matahir's "enlightened" ex-cronies is a valid point. have you seen the drivel this government has spouted? Or the crushing fist it has exerted upon it's own poeple? I would sooner invite *Niger*! I should have made the sacastic intent of the humor clearer but I thought the linked articles would have pointed it up straight away.
on May 18, 2004
Greywar,
My appologies and a certain amount of humble ie from my part. I am commenting on JU between running jobs at work and in my haste I did not check out your links. Thanks for clarifying and I agree other countries in the region would not be a good idea to send into Iraq. I still feel that Indonesia, Malaysia etc could provide troops.
Gerry
on May 18, 2004
Greywar,

What exactly is your point? Last year the US tried to persuade Turkey to send troops to the Sunni Triangle based on exactly the same logic as Schroeder is using. The Turks initially agreed but had to change their minds when the Kurds in Iraq made clear that they were VERY against the idea. Perhpas in the light of this, you have some "amusing" insult for Bush, Rumsfeld et al?
on May 18, 2004
And just for the record, in case more AssenKlownenn are reading, Greywar didn't invoke the "N" word. Niger is a country in west Africa.

Here's my brilliant idea on how to make the world a safe and happy place:

1) We withdraw from Iraq and all MidEast places

2) We publicly support and fund Israel to do whatever they want

And if that doesn't work, send them all cool-aid and TVs.
on May 18, 2004
OG - Actually there was a very small minority of the administration in favor of allowing Turkish troops into northern Iraq. If you will recall it was Turkey's insistance on being allowed to do so in exchange for basing rights that led the the war from the south. Bush did *not* want Turkey in Iraq at all at the beginning of the war. Find me a *single* quote from GWB stating that he did and I will retract the full article and issue and apology as long as the quote only attribution is not from either conspiracyplanet.com or the Democratic undergroud Forum. If you can't find one of course I would actually expect you to say so. Also moderatley acceptable would be Condi Rice quotes to the same effect. Look all you want. I will wait. I will accept that Turkey was invited as *part* of a *worldwide* effort, but Schoeder is not suggesting a global effort, quite the opposite as you will find in the links.
on May 18, 2004
OG - By the way welcome to the blog. Glad to have you.
on May 18, 2004
Arquonzo - as always I can count on you being even farther right than me:) Nice to draw the flames away......
on May 18, 2004
Well, we seem to be at odds with definitions of "Muslim country." Gerry, is Indonesia the "largest Muslim country in the world" based on size or population? And is it a "Muslim country" because it contains Muslims? A majority of Muslims? Is it the largest based on population of Muslims or percentage of the total population of Muslims?
Regardless, it's pretty apparent that in these articles and in many peoples views that "Muslim country" is equivalent to "Arab country." Yes, this is inaccurate. But, as I would expect many Iraqis to also hold this fallacy, I don't think that troops from Somalia, Indonesia or *anywhere* are going to be looked upon with less suspicion because they (claim they) are Muslim. (Please note that the previous parenthetical statement is not my view, but what I believe would be the view or purported view of those who still wished to oppose the occupying forces.) I'm glad that the Arab League (did they have a meeting yet?) came to a conclusion that I can agree with, and am further encouraged that King Abdullah II is also speaking out against this idea.
on May 19, 2004
Actually, having a country like Iran involved would not necessarily be a bad thing. Involved, NOT in control.

Many areas of Iraq would not have a problem with Iranian troops as they share culture and religion. Other areas would be flash points though and Iranian troops could not be sent there.

Paul.
on May 19, 2004
The main problem with Schroeders plan was the exclusivity of it. Virtually any nation could station troops in Iraq with relative ease but haveing the neighboring nations there without Western troops as a control measure is sheerest folly.
on May 19, 2004
Who else here misses the good ol' British Empire?
on May 19, 2004
Link

Is the Christian Science Monitor "reliable' enough for you?

I was referring to the so-called "post-war" phase. I didn't explicitly say this in my comment, I didn't think it was necessary.

Now this little misunderstanding has been resolved, perhaps you could explain the difference between the US idea and the German idea.
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