Second paragraph of the article you linked to:

"The vote is seen as a bid to repair relations with the US and to play a role in the shaping of a future Iraq. It cheers the US, which is keen to bring in large numbers of Muslim troops to join coalition forces."

As for the explanation of the differences I just finished outlining the major difference two comments ago. Additionally your article lacks a Bush or Rice quote and only has someone elses opinion of what they *think* Rummy would say about it. Furthermore the article states in the *first* paragraph that this was a Turkish initiative to curry favor with the US. You will have to do much better than that OG but I appreciate that you took the time to research a bit on it. The CSM in indeed reliable enough for me by the way, they just didn't address the issue we were discussing or include any of the quotes I wanted.

Look, I didn't take any time, I just wanted to clear up a misunderstanding. I was refering to the idea of Turkish troops in the Sunni Triangle AFTER the invasion, as is made clear in my link and your two links.

Also, I dont see a quote from Schroeder saying that he thinks the only troops in Iraq should be those from Muslim countries, that's your interpretation.

The first paragrph of the CS article states that getting Turkey on board had been the aim of the US for months. If you still want to dispute this, why not send them an email?

"You will have to do much better than that OG"

Sorry, I don't take orders from you. I've cleared up this misunderstanding to MY satisfaction. If you're not satisfied, well you'll just have to live with it.

I already conceded the Turkey in Iraq with coalition troops up at (counting) 9 comments above this. If you thinkt he issue is reseolved thats fine OG. You simply didn't produce any attributable quotes to settle it.

pseudosoldier,
The majority of the poulation are Muslim and that makes it the country with the largest number of Muslims. They are fairly benign in their beliefs and while there are Islamic parties in the parliament they are in the minority

Jamaah Islamiyah is a benign Islamic organization? Gerry I think that this is very far from the case here. Abu Bakar Ba'ashir a member of this organization was responsible for the Bali bomings just to name one at random. Indonesia seems to yet *another* case where the majority *claim* to be moderates whiel doing nothing to stop or even mildy discourage the extremists in their midst.

See, this is why I love hangin' with you guys. The intellectual discussion of world politics is just utterly fascinating. The fact that I only understand about half of it is only a minor distraction. I'll get more directly involved when the topic comes around to something I have a better grasp on.... Anyone wanna wrestle?

Greywar,
Yes there are radical elements but the population generally is fairly benign and these extremists are seen as that even in the country. My brother lives in Jakarta and he gives a very different story than we hear in the press. Indonesias biggest problem still is corruption.

The fact that I only understand about half of it is only a minor distraction.

You are not alone there....so join the rest of us AssenKlownenns

I wanna wrestle...cause I don't really understand politics either. We can pick up where we left off when you left. : )

I hope you guys realize that there is nothing altruistic in Greywar's motives for lambasting representatives of the German government; he has simply been been waiting and searching (probably for longer than anyone would consider sane) for an opportunity to use the word "AssenKlownenn". Next he will try other countries and languages. "Payaso del Culo" en espanol, Grey 'ol buddy. Let me know what you can do with it.

I wanna wrestle, too, but just with Estrogen Lass.
Politics is a pretty inexact science, tho, guys. Most of my analyses are accomplished by looking at a situation and applying my natural pessimism.
Gerry, do you think the corruption would be a problem for them working as security forces, then? I'm not sure, but I had heard an anecdote that Mexican companies wouldn't invest in Indonesia because they were too corrupt. I really have no idea if this would affect their effectiveness at policing and performing military strength security, though. Does the business/political corruption overflow into their military structure?
I really wish the UN wasn't such a strawman.

I wanna wrestle, too, but just with Estrogen Lass.

Hey! Don't think I won't beat your ass just becasue you are in Georgia there assenpfeffer!

Yeah, and you didn't get an invite, Pseudo. Take it easy Grey, I'm sure she meant it innocently.

lol, there is never anything innocent with us Catholics hence all the guilt!

If it makes you feel any better, grey, it's just that I would find grappling with her preferable to grappling with, say, Judoman over there, or Drunken You. That's what I meant by "just", anyway.