British Schools Serving *Only* Halal Meat

British Schools Serving *Only* Halal Meat - PC Gone Wrong

Life as Dhimmi's, Whether You Want it or Not.

Published on December 19, 2006 By greywar In Politics

I have a very geeky intelligence article for later but for now I want to update the article I wrote about the creeping effects of Islamism across Europe and Britain. Many commentors to the original article simply couldn't beleive the the problem is as serious or as pervasive as the linked content would seem to have suggested. For those folks I give you this tidbit from the mornings news perusal.

"Halal meat is being served to pupils in state schools without their knowledge, even if they believe the religious slaughter is cruel.

Parents have reacted furiously after being sent letters telling them their children's school dinners have been all-halal for 'some time'."

Daily Mail, UK

Hat tip to LGF as well.

No one is objecting to Muslim students being served halal food here but rather to the forced compliance with halal by non-Muslims without even informing them of it.

I for one welcome our new Muslim overlords?

Comments (Page 3)

lifehappens

on Dec 20, 2006

If Halal meat is an issue for people, then they are told, nobody is forcing you to eat it. It's not hurting you to eat it.

So then If prayer in school is an issue, don't force anyone to pray. If you don't want to learn intelligent design or darwinism, offer a choice, dont' "force" the kids to choose one over the other. That would solve the issue wouldn't it?

After all the problem people are having is not just about how the steak is obtained but by the fact some groups are being catered too while others are being shunned.

You don't want to say Merry Christmas? Then don't. Don't demand that the Airport remove all Christmas trees.....give them a freaking menorah or an inflatable santa....because after all, It's not hurting you right?

It all boils down to discrimination for or against a certian special interest group.

Gideon MacLeish

on Dec 21, 2006

I suppose nobody's ever considered the sanest, cheapest solution, hmm? If you don't like what the schools serve, PACK YOUR OWN DAMNED LUNCH.

Yup...and if I lived in Britain right now, and if my kids went to the public schools there, I'd be sending them with ham sandwiches and BLT's.

bakerstreet

on Dec 21, 2006

Could someone, please, just take a moment and tell me what is wrong with Halal meat. Don't start with the PETA crap, because that slippery slope has no meat at all at the bottom. What is the problem with meat killed in this way, does it taste different?

Gideon MacLeish

on Dec 21, 2006

Nothing's wrong with Halal meat, Baker, just with schools mandating it. It's no more right for schools to cater exclusively to Muslims or Jews than it is for them to cater exclusively to Christians.

I realize this isn't as widespread as the OP indicated, but still, the fact that it exists at all is puzzling. Aren't we pounded daily with the idea that religion has NO PLACE in public schools?

One problem with Halal meals is that pork products are not an option. If I was a pig farmer, I'd be more than a little offended. But, not being a pig farmer, I'm offended by the lessons that this teaches: that personal choice (ie, eating bacon) takes a back seat to political correctness.

bakerstreet

on Dec 21, 2006

What you aren't seeing, though Gid, is that they ARE catering to Christians. Christians have NO MANDATE as to how their meat should be killed. So there's nothing being taken away from one to cater to the other.

I went to a school that provided meat for Islamic students, and we still had pork as an option. Is there anything saying they no longer serve pork in these schools? No ham, no bacon, nothing? I'd be surprised.

More likely they just make sure that the meat the Islamic kids CAN eat can be eaten by all, instead of having "special" beef for Muslims at taxpayer expense. Since Christians have no bones to pick with how something is killed, I still don't understand how Halal meat is an offense.

bakerstreet

on Dec 21, 2006

What if someone in your school could only eat beef from white cows? Would you be harmed from eating meat from white cows? Is there a difference?

Unless someone can show me how this is a detriment to non-Muslim students, I don't see how this is an offense. Imagine the problems of kids mixing up Halal meat with their regular and the school getting sued for defiling people's kids once a week. Why take that risk when you can cater to Muslims and Christians have no preference?

Why take that chance when you can serve meat that would be fine for anyone?

Gideon MacLeish

on Dec 21, 2006

I am not totally up on Halal practices, Baker, but if it's anything like Kosher practices (and I believe, as indicated by earlier responses, they are), pork products cannot even be in the same KITCHEN as other products...meaning, yes, serving all-Halal meals would pretty much require the complete eradication of pork. I could be wrong on this, but I know it's true of kosher foods at the very least.

Is this an outrage? No, because it's being practiced in school districts with a large Muslim population, and, as you indicated, it doesn't for the most part unduly influence most students. But it seems to me odd that in a world that's banning Bibles in the classroom, we're embracing the Qu'Ran (metaphorically speaking, on BOTH parts, of course).

Gideon MacLeish

on Dec 21, 2006

Unless someone can show me how this is a detriment to non-Muslim students, I don't see how this is an offense. Imagine the problems of kids mixing up Halal meat with their regular and the school getting sued for defiling people's kids once a week. Why take that risk when you can cater to Muslims and Christians have no preference?

Why take that chance when you can serve meat that would be fine for anyone?

Maybe state sponsored institutional schools aren't the best choices for our kids for precisely these sorts of reasons.

But that's another topic entirely...

Gideon MacLeish

on Dec 21, 2006

but if it's anything like Kosher practices (and I believe, as indicated by earlier responses, they are), pork products cannot even be in the same KITCHEN as other products...meaning, yes, serving all-Halal meals would pretty much require the complete eradication of pork. I could be wrong on this, but I know it's true of kosher foods at the very least.

I am man enough to admit when I stand corrected:

2.2.1 halal food can be prepared, processed or stored in different sections or lines within the same premises where non-halal foods are produced, provided that necessary measures are taken to prevent any contact between halal and non-halal foods;

(source: WWW Link)

While there are likely more conservative schools of thought that would disagree even with this particular interpretation (as the article acknowledges), it's probably safe to say most of those wouldn't be in public schools anyway.

I would say IF the schools respected the dietary preferences of the nonMuslim students, there shouldn't be a problem with this. After all, if you object to the inhumane slaughter of animals, let's face it, a slaughterhouse is pretty durned inhumane, and you're probably a vegetarian anyway.

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