Gmail Makes Other Netmail Companies Cry...

Published on April 18, 2005 By greywar In Internet

On April 1 Gmail posted a little April Fool's joke called the "Infinity +1" storage solution. It was supposed to allow unlimited storage for all users. Of course this was just for launghs put in reality Gmail did in fact double it's already massive 1GB of free storage to 2GB+ and it increases every second as they add more space. Observe :

That is an astonishing number even for a pay service much less a free one. Can Yahoo, Hotmail, etc... even hope to compete with this? Google's business acumen leaves me stunned.

Comments (Page 6)

greywar

on Apr 20, 2005

Global Information Conspiracy, otherwise known as 'the Beast'?

Also known as "Echelon" in some circles...

greywar

on Apr 20, 2005

This will not become an Echelon thread! I don't mind the mentions so far but if this thing gets hijacked to echelon i will delete like there is no tomorrow!

Jafo

on Apr 20, 2005

TexasJoe...no

greywar...I'm not naive.

TexasJoe

on Apr 20, 2005

Echelon comes in if and only if your gmail includes subversive keywords, that "they" define according to security guidelines.

greywar

on Apr 20, 2005

greywar...I'm not naive.

That quote from you certainly suggests that you are Jafo...

Texas Joe - Last warning... honest I will delete that stuff. I mentioned it first which is why i am warning against the thread hijacking. I promise to start another thread on that topic sometime but that isn't what this one is about...

Jafo

on Apr 20, 2005

Perhaps I am typing in an unknown language...but I distinctly said ....

participate in the overt/covert interception of intellectual communications

Last I checked...my bank does not intercept my communications.

And...

As for the building permit reference...reread my post...it was another example of lost 'privacy'....not a comparison at all...just another example of it.

Jafo goes back to English class...to recheck reading comprehension...

Jafo

on Apr 20, 2005

BTW...if the thread is 'altered' through comment deletion, altering its continuity it will need to be removed from Wincustomize.com as well....so I/we are not potentially accused of altering 'history'...

greywar

on Apr 20, 2005

it was an example of something while not being a comparison to it? How do you manage that?

Last I checked...my bank does not intercept my communications.

Because you gave them permission it isn't interception? Communication is more than email you know... Also you leave out that you were not simply talking about banks in your original quote...

if the thread is 'altered' through comment deletion, altering its continuity

the only commentary I would delete would be the "echelon" business... it shouldn't become a problem considering the posted warnings...

PurrBall

on Apr 20, 2005

greywar

on Apr 20, 2005

Jafo - thanks for pointing out the Wincustomize bit.... I am actually totally unfamiliar with the protocols involved on that site. Always wondered what the differences were from there to JU.

Jafo

on Apr 20, 2005

greywar....there's cross-traffic between the 2 sites...in relevant 'sections'..eg, this one [Internet].

The biggest 'real' issue is that JU 'may' have obscene language...'f', 'c', etc....which is not 'desired' on WC.

Otherwise we do not touch JU threads...but some in the past have been butchered by their author....removing every comment that did not 'suit' his stance....and those are bumped back to JU so no 'editing' stigma can be aimed at the WC admins...

Re communication....you're getting into semantics now...and I am being literal.

Communication being the message of the email...its content. To be pedantic, my bank does not intercept my email, my mail, my telephone calls, my verbal oration on a street corner.

None of that.

However...Gmail 'would like' to intercept my email, extract 'data' and on-sell that 'knowledge' to a third party. It's actually how they finance their process. They are gathering an information database....exactly as you accuse the Visa card companies of doing....yet you can see the latter, but not the former....to me that's selective blindness...

Sure they say 'no human interaction', so what?...it's still interaction, is it not?

Jafo

on Apr 20, 2005

Oh...forgot to mention....

You know the BEST THING about Gmail?

They DON'T NEED to on-sell your email addy.....they ARE your email addy.

Captive audience.

Unlike all those data mining nasties out there we all know and hate...that strip your addresses and names, etc and pass them on to Evil Roy Slade ..... Gmail already has them...and has good old Roy ready and willing to provide the spam...just for you.

It's a marriage made in heaven.....just when several Countries have outlawed spam, really knobbling the poor, distressed Advertiser...along comes Gmail with the Final Solution.

Clever little dickie birds.

Wish I'd a thought of it....

Dan Kaschel

on Apr 20, 2005

It is forwarded to an Advertising company to indicate YOU as a potential customer for a product...If information is NOT sent to 'other companies' how is it you are targetted by those other companies?

You're not targeted. They pay G-Mail to show their ads to people who will likely show interest. It doesn't leave google. Did you not know this?

I'll be buggered if I'm going to unwittingly be an Advertiser's dummy....

Given the choice between paying for something or not paying for something but being "forced" to accomodate innocuous text ads on the far right of the screen... frankly, it's not much of a choice. And btw, google doesn't sell information to companies that spam. No spam a gmail account receives is because it read your e-mails. You must have misunderstood.

what do they with the files people upload for storage

Nothing. It's difficult to parse an MP3- and that's coming from a person who's tried

I'm targetting ... how people are willing to distinguish between a human or a robot gatherer of information

Only ignorance would claim that it's the same thing. It's like being embarassed because your vaccuum saw you in the shower.

Dan

Bichur

on Apr 20, 2005

Evil Roy Slade

I like that movie.

TexasJoe

on Apr 20, 2005

greywar: I apologize for my digression. I misunderstood your warning as I had honestly not noticed you were moderating here.

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