Religion of peace my ass.
Published on November 14, 2004 By greywar In Current Events

     During the clearing of Fallujah (something Kofi Annan and the UN opposed) the Marines found this.

 US troops tackled Fallujah's last tenacious insurgents but were still days away from completing major search operations, as the mutilated body of a Caucasian woman was found by marines.

"It is a female ... missing all four appendages, with a slashed throat and disemboweled, she has been dead for a while but only in this location for a day or two," said a Navy Corps hospital apprentice who had inspected the body.

 

Two foreign women have been abducted in Iraq and remain missing: Teresa Borcz, 54, a Pole, has blonde hair, and British aid worker Margaret Hassan, 59, has chestnut-coloured hair.

 

     Yeah leaving Fallujah alone would have been a great idea Kofi! Can you lessen the U.N.'s relevance any more? Leaving Fallujah in the hands of these murdering animals would have given more time for this...

US marines uncovered an underground prison in Fallujah containing at least two bodies and two emaciated brothers who were still alive, an intelligence officer, who refused to be identified, told AFP.

Of course if we had waited then the overwhelming majority of Moderate Muslims would have dealt with these extremists on their own right? Like this?

A bomb exploded at a market in one of Thailand's predominantly Muslim southern provinces early Saturday, killing one Buddhist man and wounding another seven people in the latest of a series of attacks blamed on insurgents.

The wounded included a 1-year-old boy, three women and three men, all of them Buddhists, he said.

"Surely things like this are not condoned by the Islamic religious establishement!" Riiight, like this?

Osama bin Laden now has religious approval to use a nuclear device against Americans, says the former head of the CIA unit charged with tracking down the Saudi terrorist.

Even if bin Laden had a nuclear weapon, he probably wouldn't have used it for a lack of proper religious authority - authority he has now. "[Bin Laden] secured from a Saudi sheik...a rather long treatise on the possibility of using nuclear weapons against the Americans," says Scheuer. "[The treatise] found that he was perfectly within his rights to use them. Muslims argue that the United States is responsible for millions of dead Muslims around the world, so reciprocity would mean you could kill millions of Americans," Scheuer tells Kroft.

 

     Once again, I urge the Silent Majority to step up and put down the stray dogs in your own yard. Don't make the US do it for you.

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on Nov 14, 2004
Great article.

I'm glad we stepped in and cleaned up Fallujah.

Why do you think it is that the "silent majority" says and does nothing?
on Nov 14, 2004
*sigh* the joys of war
on Nov 14, 2004

Why do you think it is that the "silent majority" says and does nothing?

Well I don't really beleive that moderates are the Silent Majority. The majority seem to be giving either full on support or at least tacit approval. I keep waiting for them to prove me wrong. I wrote about this a bit before here.

on Nov 14, 2004
Well I don't really beleive that moderates are the Silent Majority. The majority seem to be giving either full on support or at least tacit approval.


From my personal experience -- I had a friend I met online that I became very close with. He was a Muslim from Pakistan, but had lived in Canada most of his life. He was never really all that religious and we didn't talk about politics. We were close for several years -- then 9/11 happened. He became very religious and pretended to condemn the terrorism, but always managed to throw in justification. We started growing apart, as he became more and more -- extreme, maybe?

The last time we talked, he basically told me that if my husband was sent to Iraq that it would be my fault because it was my responsibility to actively seek to remove Bush from office, in whatever manner neccessary. He had no care or concern for me -- only for his brother Muslims. We had been very good friends and very close, and almost overnight he turned away from me and our friendship and embraced a very cold and scary set of Islamic ideals.

He went from being a happy-go-lucky, pot-smoking, soccer-playing college student to some kind of tunnel-visioned anti-American Muslim. "Silent Majority"
on Nov 14, 2004
We had a soldier in our unit who said "I would rather shoot one of our soldiers than a brother Muslim."
on Nov 14, 2004

He became very religious and pretended to condemn the terrorism, but always managed to throw in justification

Yeah thats pretty much the majority I see too. Tacit approval.

on Nov 14, 2004
i just finished watching the '60 minutes' feature/interview with schuer.  earlier in the week, i read a rather lengthy article about him, his claims and the response they generated.  i realize this is a bit off topic, but since youre providing a portion of that broadcast, id be very interested in your take on him, his evaluation of bin laden and his allegations of negligence or ineptitude at the executive level of the cia. 
on Nov 14, 2004

I have to honest here, I am not very familiar with Shuer's work with the CIA. This is in no small part due to Gorelick's "intelligence wall". This wall (coupled with hyper-classification of everything) dramatically hinders interageny and ever inter-service cooperation. I do beleive the government is way behind the power curve as far as intel collection goes. Is this the fault of the executive branch? Sure along with the legislative branch and the judicial.


Fact of the matter is that for literally 10's of decades the US Government has never been too concerned with tracking individuals. Why? Because prior to 9/11 individuals were not important globally speaking. Troop concentrations, weapons development, and reading other governments mail were the important things. The paradigm shift after 9/11 still has us reeling. Want an example of how difficult it is to weed through the literally billions of normal folks out there to find one terrorist? Read this article I wrote earlier. Compare that to the ease of targetting only government installations and personnel.

on Nov 15, 2004
I agree.

Now, in other news, I heard you fools in were wearing civilian clothes, or something? What is up with that?
on Nov 15, 2004

here's a link to the full transcript of the 60 mins interview with schuer if youre interested.  he quit his job (after 20+ years in the cia, most of the last 10 years of which were spent establishing and running the bin laden desk at cia) friday--prolly just ahead of being fired. Link


you may have misread the last part of my question...i was asking about the executive level of the cia, not the executive branch...but it's moot unless youre familiar with schuer. 


ill check your article list to find the one you mentioned. 

on Nov 15, 2004

...i was asking about the executive level of the cia

oops... Lazy reading on my part

on Nov 15, 2004
This, too, arouses my anger. Incidents like those sited here can add layer upon layer of anger in us. And does this do us any good?This leads me to wanting to write a blog about what good comes from our angry feelings? Yes, I am going to do this because I have been feeling anger lately over many things and the results are not good. Just what good does anger do? Does it lead to positive actions or to more negative feelings. That is the litmus test for discerning whether our anger is beneficial or detrimental. ::
on Nov 15, 2004
So little whip, you are saying that you don't think a person can stay focused on a responsibility unless he does it from anger? That there is nothing redeemable about people who sin? That is very contrary to the Good News of Salvation. Then for all of us who sin on a regular basis there is no hope, there is no purpose to life? I think you have not heard the message in its end. In Christ, we have read the last chapter... we know how the story will end...This is what gives us hope, the power to forgive, to pray for our enemies.
on Nov 15, 2004
little whip, I didn't assume you are a Christian. Christians are not the only people who have hope, who forgive and who pray.
on Nov 15, 2004

you are saying that you don't think a person can stay focused on a responsibility unless he does it from anger?

     Is it possible? Sure it is... Likely? Not really. Unless some other equally focused emotion motivates them. People don't riot in protest of unfair taxes, barbaric religious practices, or brutal regimes out of any but anger. Righteous fury is the prime mover of most biblical figures. Ask David about anger, or Saul, Samson, Jacob (angel wrestling), or even Solomon. Not only their personal anger but in fact the wrath of a deity gave them their focus. Anger over cultural impotence fuels Islamic terror and fury over the slaughter of civlians fuels our response.

     I don't see love, reason, lust, philosophy, or even insanity allowing the same razor focus that anger and millions of years of specialized adrenal responses provide to humans. My anger produces beneficial results to our society. That much I know. Does it benefit Muslims? Not unless they figure out that it is better to not have me and others like me angry with them....that would be a starting point.

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