Hmmm This Seems to be a Poor Way to Steal Oil

Perhaps that is because we were not there to steal oil?

Published on June 9, 2004 By greywar In Politics

Here I will post something from todays Wahington Post. I doubt this will see much light of day fromt he even coverage of CNN, ABC, or The Grey Lady.

I dare the twits on this very site who screamed to the electronic heavens about our "illegal war for oil!" to either come on and tell me this article is a fabrication of the VRWC or even more stupefyingly actually offer a retraction. Wonder which of these two options will get the most takers? Hmm...

Washington Times
June 9, 2004
Pg. 1

Iraqis Assume Control Of Oil Industry

From combined dispatches

BAGHDAD — Iraqi officials said yesterday that the interim government has assumed full control of the country's oil industry before the June 30 turnover of sovereignty from the U.S.-led Coalition Provisional Authority.

"Today, the most important natural resource has been returned to Iraqis to serve all Iraqis," Prime Minister Iyad Allawi said. "I'm pleased to announce that full sovereignty and full control on oil industry has been handed over to the oil ministry today and to the new Iraqi government as of today."

"We are totally now in control, there are no more advisers," Mr. Ghadban said. "We are running the show, the oil policies will be implemented 100 percent by Iraqis." (all emphases mine -ed.)

The full story is only here right now and you need access to AKO to get there so the civvies wil simply have to wait a bit longer to read it for themselves.

I suppose the butthelmets will have to find a new reason to harp on now. Thankfully there is no shortage of tinfoil or asshats.

Comments (Page 3)

messybuu

on Jun 10, 2004

Supposedly, the U.S. gave Hussein WMDs, but then they say that Hussein never had WMDs and we made the whole thing up for the oil. I guess anti-war people think logic is evil.

vincible

on Jun 10, 2004

So we sold WMDs to Hussein and people are denying that there were WMDs in Iraq

Most, in my opinion almost all, of the WMDs we sold him were destroyed. Some by Hussein, some by inspectors, some by the passage of time.

To my ear, the arguments that there's still a stockpile "somewhere" are even loonier than the "war for oil" arguments. *Someone* would have spoken up by now.

messybuu

on Jun 10, 2004

So even if they weren't all accounted for, people should simply assume that they were all destroyed? Well, I guess that's a good policy. "Show us that you've dismantled all your weapons, and if you don't, we'll simply assume you did."

vincible

on Jun 10, 2004

Look, the evidence is:

No one has spoken up about WMD. We've interviewed most of Iraq's top scientists, military and poltiical officials, offered rewards, etc. No one has led us to any sort of stockpile, even though there are large incentives to do so. No paperwork has been found. Why?

Either there really are no weapons stockpiles, or there is a mindbogglingly vast conspiracy of silence encompassing at least hundreds, probably thousands, of people who have no incentive to be silent. The first seems reasonable, the second seems unlikely.

The funny thing is that the assumption that there really are weapons is based on the assumed competence of the prewar CIA and other intelligence agencies. If the CIA was so brilliant before the war in figuring out that these weapons really did exist, why have they suddenly turned incompetent? The more realistic explanation is that they always have been bunglers. And this is consistent with the other evidence, such as CIA failures like 9/11 and other Al Qaeda attacks, the asprin factory bombing in Sudan, the Chinese Embassy bombing in Belgrade, the "uranium" fiasco in Bush's state of the union address, et cetera ad nauseum.

messybuu

on Jun 10, 2004

Oh, I'm sure there might not be any stockpiles, but that doesn't mean that the U.S. should have assumed that there weren't any simply because Hussein said there wasn't, especially after we knew he had them and he didn't account for them all.
And in the end, it was about the WMDs and not the oil.

vincible

on Jun 10, 2004

Certainly. I was a rather vocal hawk on Iraq, partly for that reason.

I guess the real question now is what ought to be done now about the awesome incompetence of the CIA--either their prewar incompetence in predicting these vast stockpiles, or their postwar incompetence in being unable to find them.

greywar

on Jun 11, 2004

Actually my bet was that the lions share of proscribed weapons and subsances went over the border with Syria in the numerous convoys seen doing just that immediately before the war. Additionally I did write an article earlier regarding the failing of the HUMINT community leading up to the war you can find this here.

bennyd- This is not a game site. I am a little baffled as to how you thought it was.

MasonM

on Jun 11, 2004

bennyd- This is not a game site. I am a little baffled as to how you thought it was.

Whew! I was starting to think I had somehow mistaken a game site for a blog site. Glad you cleared that up. I was really starting to worry there.

vincible

on Jun 11, 2004

You can post here through politicalmachine.com, which is a game site...

greywar

on Jun 11, 2004

Really? I had no idea that was possible. Thanks for the info Vincible. I assure you that the vast majority of posters are not doing so through that website though. www.joeuser.com is the primary site and it has little if anything to do with games.

Arquonzo

on Jun 11, 2004

Whaddya mean "Steal Oil"??? We won it fair and square in combat.

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