Put your money where your mouth is or pay the piper!
Published on May 27, 2004 By greywar In Politics

     I frequently find myself being told either by individuals in conversation or informed by the media that most violent acts or unpleasant things in life are the action of the "vocal minority" or "extremist groups" who do not represent the "silent majority". This tired old saw is trotted out for everything from the reasons why the Democratic party is being hijacked by the left, the excuse for Islamic terror groups, to why Americans are fat bastards. Frankly I am tired of it. I will allow it has *some* uses within your own social groups. For instance when democrats talk amongst themselves about their party then by all means use the argument as an incentive to incite action. When you are talking to non-party members and use it as an explanation of why some recent statement was made or whathaveyou it loses it's impact. Police up your own chosen social group or get lumped in with them.

     Recently Muggaz wrote an article depicting a possible future terror attack by U.S. based extremist groups. In the comments another analogy was drawn using the KKK as an example group. This perfectly illustrates my point. The reason that I don't buy into the agument is that the US doesn't *let* it's extremist groups run rampant on others nations soil! We keep the KKK here and well under wraps. They do not bomb Africa or target "jew-lovers" globally. As soon as white folks got tired of being associated with these psychopaths we as a society crushed them out to avoid the possible repercussions of allowing them to continue unabated. Enlightened self-interest. We as a society decided long ago that we keep our problems solved within our own borders. Our Christian fundamentalists are not out there flying passenger jets into Muslim owned skyscapers. None of these things happen. Yet the Muslim world seems to think that they get a pass by having someone giving a CNN interview condeming each recent terror act. Lip service is easy, actual action is difficult.

     You folks get no more passes from me. If you are *truly* the "silent opposition" and not the "non-active supporters" or teror hows about actually moving your dead asses and stopping your own fucking neighbors? Take an example from Abu Ghraib, when that miserable bunch of fucking retards were exposed as shit-floaters in the US gene pool, we stepped on them! There were no parades on the "American Street" like we see from your side of the house. When we find a nest of domestic vipers in our national house they get squashed and fast. We don't wait for you to deal with our problems, so why would you think our patience with you would be infinite?

     If someone who lives in your apartemnt as your roommate is pissing off your neighbors it will become incumbent upon *you* the person nearest them to reign them in. If you don't, guess what? Eventually you will pay the price right alongside them. This is the lesson we learned long ago. As an older civilization it is amazing to me that the Arab world has not learned this. Or perhaps they know it quite well and simply have no desire to flush out the vipers from their ranks? Something to think about. *Before* you get the eviction notice that your buddy earned you.

     note: these were just easy targets for the venting of spleeange. the argument easily applies to right wing or any other brand of "extremists" who are tolerated or tacitly encouraged by the "silent majority".


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on May 27, 2004
If an Arab empire invaded our country, meddled in our affairs, exploited our resources, played our citizens against one another, used our leaders as puppets, and remained on intimate and friendly terms with our worst enemy, I think there might be some citizen initatives against them. Just or unjust, that's how it is, and its foolish to suggest that the U.S. and the Middle East have or have had a similar abundance of dissenters and terrorists, but that the U.S. has dealt with its own. If the U.S. population was largely sympathetic to extremists and dissidents, and if such groups were as abundant and powerful as they are in the middle east, the government would have a hard time containing them. Besides, governments in Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Saudi Arabia aren't exactly the most popular and secure. Al Quaida, on the other hand, is more popular than ever, if not as well financed and networked. When unpopular governments take drastic and visible measures to defeat popular militias, they risk civil war, and, in the worst cases, falling out of power.
on May 27, 2004
As always I can count on you Saint terroist acts become "civlian initiatives"... I couldn't have hoped for a more leftist response:)
on May 27, 2004
Greywar

There is a big difference between supporting terrorism and understanding why it happens. Do you really think left wingers applaud what AL-Quada does?

We all wish we didn't have to deal with terrorism, and The USA does an excellent job in keeping its various nut job groups under wraps, however, you can never say never, and especially in todays environment, when a lot of resources are being used to eradicate terrorism over seas, you cant discount an extremist right wing orgnaisation doing something stupid, because it is conceptual that something could slip through the cracks.

The US national security department does a relatively good job - but they can't watch everyone all the time!

BAM!!!
on May 27, 2004
Not all left wingers support terrorism muggaz, but some certainly do. Just take a gander at the Democratic Underground after any terrorist kills a westerner. The leftism I was referring to with the extremely estimable Ying was his transforation of "terrorism" into "civilian initiative"...classic.
on May 27, 2004
As always I can count on you Saint terroist acts become "civlian initiatives"... I couldn't have hoped for a more leftist response:)


Well if its not a government or military initiative, it has to be a civilian initiative. With this I refer to all legal and extra-legal forms of organized dissent, which may or may not amount to terrorism, including assassination, radical enchantistic zionization, organized and malicious defiance of municipal sound ordinances, those less obnoxious forms of genocide that go right under the radar and allow us to smile about their nonexistence, and the actual invasion of foreign militias to capture cities and convert sinners. You see, there are subtleties and shades of gray, word choices to convey different emphases and different tones. That's the joy of being a leftist intellectual, it's just that people get confused all too easily and are too often unwilling to look at rationales. So lets just say that I love America and hate America. Flip-flop. We can all understand that.
on May 27, 2004
radical enchantistic zionization
lol man you are *on* today! Glad I couldn't sleep!
on May 27, 2004
As soon as white folks got tired of being associated with these psychopaths we as a society crushed them out to avoid the possible repercussions of allowing them to continue unabated.

which whitefolks did that? after nearly 100 years of nightriding, crossburning and ruthless intimidation (including public murder and selling souvenir parts of their victims' corpses) of american citizens who exhibited uppittyness by daring to try to learn how to read, offending god and the flower of white womanhood by saving their money to buy property and attempting to mongrelize the white race by exercising their right to vote, the kkk was alive and doing fine..even fielding a nationally known member of their conspiracy for high public office in lousiana.

the reason the klan is not as obvious player in todays america is due in the largest part to a small group of actiist liberal leftist leftwing anti-american pinko underground pointyheaded intellectuals headed by a jew who took their dumb good-ol-boy proud-to-be-an-okie-from-muskogee if-you-dont-love-it-leave-it white supremacist asses to court where they did something no attorney general in any southern state nor representing the people of the united states had attempted and cleaned their financial clock

once local chapters...i mean klavens..of the kkk had to pay damages to victims and put their lil ol money where their hatefilled mouths were, the organization withered and left the field to regroup. but white america as a group had very little to do with that.
on May 27, 2004
is it too late to have leftists narrow the concept of 'civilian initiative' to exclude such terrorist actions as the burning of loyalist homes and destruction of the crown's property during a mob action in which members of extremist underground cells disguised as insurgent native americans polluted an entire colonial harbor by dumping a shit pot of monarchist-imposed unprocessed alkaloid-containing herbs into boston harbor to prevent the vast majority of moderates from paying a single cent of unrepresented taxation?
on May 27, 2004
He's got a point. Grey?
on May 27, 2004
You better be sleeping.
on May 27, 2004
Hey there Estrogen Lass! I know we can count on you not to be a silent anything. Tell us how you really feel.
on May 27, 2004
Is there any way for me to take my name off this site? Anyone? Help?
on May 27, 2004
To take your name off?  You mean delete your account and your blog? 
on May 27, 2004

If country X doesn't like US policy, they have plenty of avenues to voice their displeasure.  If someone in Saudi Arabia doesn't like what the US is doing in Saudi Arabia (for instance) they should complain to their government.

I don't see how you can "understand" the reasoning behind flying airplanes into buildings with the intent to murder as many innocent civilians as possible. There is such a huge distance between the cause and effect that it becomes just arbitrary violence. The fact that there's debate over WHY Al Qaeda is doing what they've done says it all.

on May 28, 2004
The fact that there's debate over WHY Al Qaeda is doing what they've done says it all


What exaclty does it say to you Brad? The fact that there is a debate as to why Al-Qaeda have done this, merely consolidates the fact that there is a deeper issue.

If it were as simple as a bunch of crack-pot terrorist killing indiscriminately, I think you and people who share your beleifs would have a lot more support from the International community.

Unfortunately for all concerned, it isn't that simple...

BAM!!!
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