As a child I used to love Andy Rooney's end bit of 60 minutes. I enjoyed the critical thought process he would apply to everyday things like soap. That being said, I never paid much attention to the man's political opinions until fairly recently.

     I completely disagreed with the points Mr. Rooney made in his article "Our Soldiers are Not Heroes" and had not found much else to agree with him on recently as he focused mainly on the War where his political views and mine differ wildly. This does not mean that he is a bad author or a bad person or even that he is unpatriotic. I think he beleives what he writes and he makes no effort to disguise that he is writing an op-ed column and not a hard news piece. Bravo for you Mr. Rooney.

     This rather lengthy intro brings me to his lastest article, "Our Darkest Days are Here". While the article (title included) may occasionally dip into a bit of poetically liscensed hyperbole I agree with it's salient points on the whole. If the four or five of you who regularly read this blog may recall I argued many of these same issues as a sort of response piece to an article of Brad's a while back. (You are coming late to this party Andy but strap on the pointy hat anyway)

     For those who dont have the time or inclination to read Mr. Rooney's article I will reproduce some bits I felt particularly interesting. Sort of an "anti-fisking" I suppose.

"The image of one bad young woman with a naked man on a leash did more to damage America's reputation than all the good things we've done over the years ever helped our reputation."

     While I dont think it washed everything away completely as Mr. Rooney does, I do think that this incident coupled with the subsequent attempts to rationlize it away did more damage in a short amount of time that almost any other *recent* single incident. The moral high ground is located on a balance beam and it is very hard to stay on it.

"Where were your officers? If someone told you to do it, tell us who told you. If your officers were told – we should know who told them."

     This is another issue that has gnawed at me since this whole scene came to light. Even if no orders were issued for this sort of thing, (which strains my credulity), officers whether commisioned or not are supposed to take responsibility for their soldier's actions. The sheer lack of supervision here *alone* should be a court martial offense for both the NCOs in direct supervision of these soldiers and for the prison's commanding officer at the very least. That the officer corps has closed ranks on this is nothing short of disgusting and corrupt.

     I won't bore you further but I did wan't to highlight the work of this left-leaning author in counterpoint to the normally right-wing content you hear me spew on a regular basis. 

Emperor Misha has a rather different take on this here. Read at your own risk.

    

 


Comments
on May 25, 2004
Here is the most important piece of Rooney's article:

"In the history of the world, several great civilizations that seemed immortal have deteriorated and died. I don't want to seem dramatic tonight, but I've lived a long while, and for the first time in my life, I have this faint, faraway fear that it could happen to us here in America as it happened to the Greek and Roman civilizations.
Too many Americans don't understand what we have here, or how to keep it. I worry for my grandchildren, my great-grandchildren. I want them to have what I've had, and I sense it slipping away."


on May 25, 2004
While there may be some worthwhile sentiment in that chunk there... this was actually one of the points where I felt he had dipped into the hyperbole bin.
on May 26, 2004
I happened to tune into Andy on TV to this, his topic. He did, indeed, make some good points that too many of us may take for granted. When he said:

"Too many Americans don't understand what we have here, or how to keep it. I worry for my grandchildren, my great-grandchildren. I want them to have what I've had, and I sense it slipping away."

I think he was not exaggerating at all. Just look around you and see how many supposedly Americans crab about everything in sight instead of being grateful. Look where the line of integrity has slipped further and further down the line to embrace the philosphy of "If it feels good, do it. Never mind the consequences." That was the kind of lifestyle that brought down the Roman and Greek civilization.
on May 26, 2004
overall that was a superb edition of 60 minutes. theyve been really hot recently but i rarely run into one where all the segments work together as well. i was right there with andy through most of it. he can be annoying at times but it was clear he was talking from the heart.

i thought hed overdone it when he began talking about rome crumbling and the inevitability of our own decline.

the end where he was calling for booting them out into philip nolan-land could have been cut and improved the whole piece.

leaving it in, made him sound like an intelligent but not thinking coherently john ashford.

i marked my calendar for ya in any event.
on May 26, 2004
morally the US has already started its fall, and this is something we can all agree on. Of course the US will eventually falter, but I personally think it will be in a hundred of years from now. IF it survives as the US in the coming one-world government. That will be here in a couple decades from now, if not earlier.
on May 26, 2004

in the coming one-world government. That will be here in a couple decades from now, if not earlier.

 

Sure, as exhibited by the fantastically totalitarian leadership of the UN? I think not.

on May 26, 2004
I hear you Greywar but consider: What is the future of the UN? It's been proven to Americans (apparently the only ones who matter) that it's a useless organization who can't do anything right (backing the US no matter what). It's going to be dissolved in about 10 -15 years at most.
on May 26, 2004

that it's a useless organization who can't do anything right (backing the US no matter what)

Are you insane? Were you here for the last 3 years?

adiitionally...

To be replaced by what Miki? The members of the Bohemian Grove? Take the wrinkles out of the tinfoil hat.

on May 27, 2004

Take the wrinkles out of the tinfoil hat.

I almost spit my coffee on that one!

Boy, I went to your link and that was one of the foulest tirades I have ever read!  I did get to see where you got "asshat" from  

on May 27, 2004
yes, Misha has a way with profanity that I could only aspire to.