If you hear someone talking about Edomites you should probably leave.
Published on April 25, 2007 By greywar In Politics

     Sometimes I cruise the Net simply to accquaint myself with various strains of rhetoric. I find this useful as it helps me to spot when people who are presenting themselves as moderates are actually pushing much more extreme agendas than they let on. Second Seedline doctrine is a good example of this.

     Many conspiracy theorists appearing in connection with seemingly more mainstream things like the 9/11 "Truthers" movement (Rosie O'Donnell's comments about 9/11, Omar, and the Bay of Pigs ties in here) use the Illuminati and the Bush family's supposed ties with the organization as a point of departure. The Illuminati are of course in league with the New World Order and backed by Jews according to many "Truthers". Most of their 9/11 hysteria avoids highlighting the anti-semitism of their core beliefs but a little digging reveals a lot.

     Basically once someone has invoked a tie in between the Illuminati and the Jews (or Omar and the Bay of Pigs) they are referring to Second Seedline doctrine as summarized by Sherry Shiner here. Even that page really shys away from revealing the deeper ties that Second Seedline has to White Power or "Christian Identity" groups but SS doctrine is the core of those groups' anti-semitism. Follow most "Truthers" far enough down the rabbit hole and you will find direct ties to neo-nazi groups using Second Seedline as the theological basis for their hate and as an excuse to murder or malign Jews.

Some Second Seedline excerpts:

     From Sherry herself:

"The agenda started back when the Edomite Bolshevik Jews financed Hitler's rise to power in Germany to set up the conditions to establish their own Nation of Israel for Illuminati rule and that is exactly what happened with the Nazi Holocaust. Who was behind the holocaust? The Edomite Jews."


The Bush tie-in:

"What do the Bush's have in common with Edomite Jews? They are all part of the serpent seedline of the Illuminati. "


     Which leads us to Catholics (and Rosie O'Donnell's recent remarks regarding both the 9/11 attacks and Catholic Justices by the way):

"The Illuminati are at the top of two particular races of people known as the Edomite Jews and the Sons of Cain. And it goes all the way to the top where the Illuminati rule directly beneath the Jesuits. The Jesuits answer directly to the Black Pope. The Black Pope position is the real power position in the Vatican as opposed to the "white" pope position. Most think it is the Pope, John Paul II who rules from the Vatican. He may reside there, but the real power in the Vatican is hidden, and it's in the position known as the Black Pope."


     How does Sherry know all this? God talks to her of course:

"Yahweh told me this in regards to mixing of the seedlines:


The mixture of My children with the serpent's seed was something I allowed to serve My own purposes. Just as I allowed Satan to defile My garden, I allowed him to defile my people.


(I believe that is the first time I have quoted God Himself on my blog.)

     And the improbable tie-in to Imus from James Wickstrom's website:

"Ever notice how the Jews and their cabala works? Everything they do has multiple purpose. Imus threatened to go public on 9/11 truth; the truth being that the Mossad and the CIA knocked the buildings down for the PNAC, so the Jews could create a "New American Century", demolish the "white elephant" WTC Towers, and make their buddy "Lucky Larry" Silverstein very wealthy."

     All of this is echoed and re-inforced by Neo-nazi or extremist organizations like The Order, the KKK, Islamic Jihad, and Vanguard News. It moves from there onto Truther sites after a bit of sanitization and then is regurgitated by Rosie O'Donnell who is seemingly unaware that the founders of the Truther movement also hate gays and lesbians as much as they hate Jews, Catholics, and Bush. Look on their websites if you can stand it.

     It is a short hop from the Truther organizations to people like Alex Jones's Infowars site and his stances on everything from 9/11, to the Bush family, food additives, and the evils of vaccinations.

      It pays to trace the ideological roots of things that seem more vanilla than they really are. Next time you hear Rosie, a Truther, or someone else indirectly echoing the beliefs of Sherry Shriner, Alex Jones, or their neo-nazi backers try to remember who is pushing the theory and what the basis of it is: Evil Jews, Evil Catholics, Aryan Supremacy, and even Extra Terrestrials (if you dig far enough they believe that Satan is an alien).

     These organizations use the lesser memes as a softening point for gradual recruitment. Once you become personally invested in some of the lesser belief systems it is much easier to sway your mind into buying the harder core of it all.


I am amazed at how far a crazed Nazi meme can be propagated by the very gullible.



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on Apr 25, 2007

Thanks for doing the digging, but I am not surprised.  Sheehan is in league with the aryan nation, so it just follows that Rosie is too.  Altho I know they dont think they are, but they just propagate their hate and innuendo.  Because of their own hate.

They say politics makes strange bedfellows, and we can see examples of that dily in Washington and other nations.  But ignorance makes for even stranger ones, and that is due solely to the lack of willingness on the ones in bed with the enemy to use calm rational reasoning.

It is funny in a way.  While Bush was trying to coopt the center, the loons on the left seem to be coopting all the hate, bigotry and insanity of all the fringes.  And all because of their hate.

on Apr 26, 2007
Instructor: "... and that's how the United States intelligence community works. The President is in charge overall, like with the military, but the rest of it reports up to him; there are people who prepare a lot of reports so he sees only the most relevant information for decision-making. Of course, a good intelligence analyst will only report the facts and reasonable conclusions and avoid coloring their reports with their own predispositions."

Student: "But Bush knew about the 9/11 attacks before they happened, right?"

Instructor: "Guh?"