The morons always lose.
Published on March 26, 2007 By greywar In Current Events

     No one forces you to sign things unless they have a gun. You can however be forced by the sheer synergistic power of your own stupidity, laziness, and ignorance though. This is the case with many homebuyers and folks who take out debt consolidation mortgages.

     CNN just did a fairly long piece on the folks who have signed up for loans that they haven't got a prayer of paying off ever. Of course CNN's AnchorDweeb fawned over the morons who stupidly signed a contract at signing that they knew had been changed! Of course it wasn't these tools fault... Nanny Government should have somehow stepped in and kept them from beggaring themselves at the altar of their own idiocy.

     AnchorDweeb kept this up non-stop until the panel of commentators with her stepped in and roundly condemned the couple for doing something so patently retarded. Anchordweeb looked a bit stunned and hurt that they could possibly be holding people accountable for their own actions but caved to the pressure and reluctantly acquiesced that "Ok, maybe the people had some shame of the blame but shouldn't the Government do something?!?"

     Here is the thing... the latest kerfuffle over "sub-prime" lending has confused many people. They way that home loans used to work was that the bank or mortgage company would issue a loan to people they considered to be good credit risks. This meant that they only gave loans to people they were fairly certain would actually be able to pay them back. The bank would then hold the loan and make their profit from the huge interest on a 30 year loan.

     All this changed with the advent of real estate funds traded like stocks or bonds. The way this works is that a third party buys a bunch of mortgages from the original loan issuers. They then sell bonds to investors using the payments from the loans to pay the returns on the bonds. This was further refined by gathering these loans into groups by risk called tranches. The loans from high credit risk borrowers were grouped with other high-risk loans and the loans from rock-solid risks with other solid loans. Then an investor would buy a bond from one of the tranches receiving a much higher rate of return from buying a piece of a high-risk tranche (because this tranche was only paid off after the lower risk ones were paid off) while safer investors bought low return bonds from the safe tranches. Complicated I know but stay with me....

     Since original lenders no longer held loans for the length of the mortgage they were far more motivated to give loans to people who were much higher credit risks than ever before. These high risk loans were easily sold to companies putting together bundles of loans for high-risk tranches. This is a pretty transparent vicious cycle.

     Add to the tranche phenomenon the discovery that people aren't inclined to look at anything before signing it and you get specialty mortgages. These started simply as Adjustable Rate Mortgages or ARM's where the interest rate typically starts at an artificially low teaser rate for a year or two and then adjusts massively upwards based off the prime rate. ARM's are bad enough but they have nothing on "interest only" loans wherein you pay nothing but interest for the first 2/3 or so of the loan. This means that after 20 years of payments on a 30 loan you actually own nothing. Lenders love this type of loan a lot because they can allow lower interest rates since they still own the entire home for the next 20 years. Most borrowers will end up "selling" the home prior to that date which means they effectively rented the property from the mortgage holder but the mortgage holder wasn't responsible for anything as a landlord. Genius.

     Tying up the stupidity hat-trick are loan consolidation mortgages. Companies will bend over backwards to convince dupes that rolling non-collateralized debt into a loan anchored by their homes is a good idea. I don't care how much credit card debt you have... no one will ever be able to repo your home or property because of it. Look it up. Home loans though are a different matter. Rolling debt that had no real hold over into a loan that can leave you homeless is a bad idea at any interest rate. 

     The real tragedy here is that none of these loans are ever "forced" on anyone. Each and everyone is brought into effect only when someone willingly signs a contract spelling it all out in black and white. Of course most people hate reading anything and simply sign whatever is put in front of them. it is only after they start having problems paying the bills for the loan they moronically signed for that they are gifted with bursts of energy. Then they have no problem speding 20 hours a weeks hawking their problem to sympathetic journalists and professional victimists who will sympathize with their "plight". all of this could have been averted by taking an hour or two to either read the mortgage contract yourself or spedning a few hundred dollars to have a lawyer read it for you. After all, what is a few hundred bucks when you are about to go into debt for hundreds of thousands?

     Sign one of these and you have no one to blame but yourself. There are plenty of free resources out there that will explain home loans and amoritization schedules to you on the Web. Go use some

 

 

 

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P.S. Do yourself a favor and also do the free investing lessons over at Morningstar before you start day-trading. Or just be a retard and start losing money.

 


Comments (Page 4)
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on Mar 29, 2007
So what do you think about the stupid and predetory lenders?


Is it our responsibility (or the Government's) to babysit and pass more laws and more buerocratic red tape to protect the dumbest citizens? Why SHOULD the government DO anything? What exactly to you think should be done?


While I don't think it's our Government's job to babysit ANYONE at all, there are some lenders out there who need to be held accountable for what they do. Having laws and policies in place that will let them know if they do this, or this, they will be held accountable for their deceptive actions and they won't get away with it by changing their business names or moving the company out of state to another state where they will set up shop and do the same thing to someone else!


A year later when the rest of the properties were built up, my taxes tripled. Suddenly, I couldn't afford to cover lost rent and repairs. I ended up struggling for another year before selling the house. I thought I had anticipated every potential situation and prepared myself accurately. When I realized my problem, I didn't go whining to someone else to bail me out. I TOOK PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. When we sold the house we were in dire financial straits, the agent knew we had to close on the 31st because we didn't have enough money to cover the mortgage for another month. He royallly screwed us over by bringing different documents to the closing table. We lost out on $1500, but due to the situation, we couldn't wait any longer. We had no options other than filing deceptive buisness practices with the real estate board and the BBB. Did I run to the news to save me? no. So yeah, smart people who study the situation and do the best they can might still get screwed, but they learn and move on.


That's good you were able to get out of a bad situation, it's terrible you got screwed and it's good you moved on!

But the same way that something came up and you couldn't handle it when you thought you did, that's what I'm talking about, that situation happens to the best of us. The real estate person screwed you over, KNOWING your situation, THAT happens to the best of us, you COMPLAINED to the BBB, that's what these people are doing now, letting someone know what happened to them. THAT is all I'm trying to say LH...it can happen to anyone! While some people are making a big stink and want the Government to bail them out, there are some who don't go that far and there are some who just wants something to be done to help them since they have realised THEIR mistake so that they too can move on. The thing is, this is a very HOT topic at the moment and the MEDIA knows this, sees the trends, know the problems and the reasons for it and so they tag along and bring it to everyone's attention.
on Mar 29, 2007
Hmmmm, none of these predatory tactics will stop me from NOT SIGNING THE CONTRACT


failure to return deposits;

failure to return a customer's own vehicle;

these 2 are tactics use to force that signature. by delaying the deposit or the vehicle's return, the sales staff and management can use the time to further manipulate the customer.

misrepresentations of a consumer's right not to go forward with a purchase;

i think this qualifies as something that definitely is a manipulative method that people get manipulated into signing.

increasing the price of a vehicle or the finance rate without advising the consumer;

has been done on signed contracts posthumously.

adding unwanted options, such as rustproofing and extended service contracts

same, can be done posthumously


i think ya over reached there. i have already acknowledged your obvious powers never to be hustled, you don't need to do that (over reach). do people do stupid things? sure they do. but your underestimation of a con man will bite ya in the ass one of these days, i am sure of that. or , maybe it already has and this is just an exercize in projecting that shame onto others. i don't know, i can only speculate there.
on Apr 06, 2007
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