Islamism, Culture, Terror, and Paris Hilton
Published on December 15, 2006 By greywar In Politics

            Mark Steyn has posited that Europe is rapidly approaching (and perhaps has even passed) a demographic point of no return. Dharma’s recent article regarding the extermination of Christian references during the Christmas season in Britain seems to re-enforce the point. I ask you here at JU and beyond the walls of this blog to answer these questions: Can Europe reverse the trend or is it already too late? Will Europe be forced to don the hijab and accept their status as Dhimmi under the approaching New Caliphate? Is it possible that this could force a return to European fascism and nationalism as a counter?

            For my part I think it is far too late for Europe to turn the demographic tide by simply having more kids. The cultural revolution of the Zero Population Growth advocates has come to pass and there is no likely return to the reproductive habits of earlier centuries. I believe that it is also too late for Europe to resort to a resurgent fascist movement as a means of cultural survival as Ralph Peters “rebuttal” to Steyn would suggest. The population simply isn’t there and neither is the will to fight. The Muslims of Europe simply seem to want it more. There will be no rising tide of old school European nationalism simply because there are not enough young non-Muslim militants for it to work. You can’t deport people en masse without a brutal and ideologically engaged military with enough numbers to combat their opposites in the deportee community.

            My prediction is that Europe will fall to Islamism with hardly a whimper as long as the Muslims don’t try and rush things with further terror attacks. They will simply breed their way into power. More kids mean more votes and I don’t care how educated post-schismatic bishops think they are :

 

"Episcopalians aren't interested in replenishing their ranks by having children?"

"No," agreed Bishop Kate. "It's probably the opposite. We encourage people to pay attention to the stewardship of the earth and not use more than their portion." (How very Paris Hilton of her - GW)

            The fact is that her single grand kid gets one vote when they reach the age of majority and this woman’s 42 grandkids get 42:

"We are really happy," her son Zuheir told Agence France-Presse. "She told us last night that she would do a suicide operation. She prepared her clothes for that operation, and we are proud. 'I don't want anything, only to die a martyr.' That's what she said."

                If Europe is lucky they might be allowed to leave the new Caliphate for the U.S. and other more secular areas provided that America has not also gone down the same road to the abattoir of the infidel called Political Correctness first. After all we would want the Brits to beat us to it do we? After all the folks in “non-flyover America  want us to be as urbane and refined as those fancy Europeans.

            Just my opinion though, I am sure you will tell me how wrong it is….

 

 

 

 

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on Dec 20, 2006
Highest suicide rate of any 1st-world area in the world (probably highest overall too but don't have those stats handy).

That was a little too far out of the window I think: WHO stats

Most European suicide rates (I looked up Germany, France, Italy, Spain and the UK) aren't all that different from e.g. the one in the US. Japan's is significantly higher though, especially when taking a look at the rate for women. Some unpleasant places lead the statistics (Belarus), and I don't trust some of the values (Iran anyone?). Some Eastern European countries are in top spots, but they have large changes to master and some of the values might be a little outdated.
on Dec 20, 2006
Can Europe reverse the trend or is it already too late?


Yes they can, it is not too late. There are only around 15 million Muslims in Western Europe, out of 400 million Europeans. It will take centuries for Muslims to "outbreed" Europeans, if it happens at all.

At least one author thinks that Muslim population growth themselves will also stagnate (granted this is for Muslim nations, not Muslims in Europe):

WWW Link

Europe can at least look to Russia for a foretaste of what may come, since Russia has a) a falling population, of which almost 20% are Muslim already and c) a government which is decidely unfriendly to its Muslim inhabitants.

Will Europe be forced to don the hijab and accept their status as Dhimmi under the approaching New Caliphate?


According to your link, Dhimmi is the native non Muslim populations of an area under Muslim rule lost to those Muslim rulers because of a jihad type war, presumably with this approaching new Caliphate.

I don't think "breeding their way to power" counts as a jihad type war, so I'm not sure why this Caliphate idea is relevant to the discussion. In any event, I don't see anyone signing any treaty forcing the womenfolk to wear a hijab.
on Dec 21, 2006

Re suicide rates, the number I gave came from the PDF I linked to earlier which grouped European suicide rates as a single average.

Though I grant you that Europe's may not be higher than any single country (Japan's IS very high).  That link you provided was pretty interesting. What is the deal in Russia?

on Dec 21, 2006
Europe can at least look to Russia for a foretaste of what may come, since Russia has a) a falling population, of which almost 20% are Muslim already and c) a government which is decidely unfriendly to its Muslim inhabitants.

No, Russia's situation is different: A questionable democracy and economic success fueled by high prices for fossil fuels for the most part (followed by increasing weapon sales I guess). Russia could (and should in my opinion) easily get rid of some Muslim dominated regions which are nothing but trouble anyway (Chechnya anyone?).

What is the deal in Russia?

Russia's demographic figures are awful. According to the CIA World Factbook, the population declines with about 0.4% each year (EU: +0.2%, USA +0.9%). It may not sound that much at the first glance, but it means that they lose almost 1,500 inhabitants each day. The life expectancy at birth is considered to be only 60.5 years for males.
on Dec 21, 2006
The 1 million Muslims have got the 59 million Christians scared shitless over Christmas and additionally are breeding them into the ground. The wave is generational and not current, hence the demographics of it all. 59 million people who each have 1 child per person results in zero population growth. 59 million who have 2 children per (or evn more inthis case) double or more their representation in the population each generation. Further these new generations are even larger portions of the military age and power-holders of each successive generation.


That's assuming they all embrace Islam. Not all children of Christian parents embrace Christianity, and not all children of Muslim parents will embrace Islam. I don't think the situation is as dire as it appears.
on Dec 21, 2006
... and not even Islam. Fundamentalist Islam. Trying to get kids in the West to embrace anything that diverts from the general hedonism of our culture is like pulling teeth. That's why we have a few, disturbed individuals instead of hordes of people shouting death in the street.

It's easy to speak out against materialism and lust and immorality when you live in a nation where they cut off your body parts for indulging in such. When you are uneducated, poor, and the hope of ever enjoying anything like that is nil, THEN you can be all moralistic and pretend to hate it while subliminally coveting it. That won't happen in the west, period, any more than Pat Robertson will make America the next Imperial Christendom.
on Dec 21, 2006
... and not even Islam. Fundamentalist Islam.


Point.
on Dec 21, 2006
not all children of Muslim parents will embrace Islam
True but far far greater numbers of Muslims do embrace the religion of their parents thn do the kids of post-reform Christianity.
on Dec 21, 2006
"True but far far greater numbers of Muslims do embrace the religion of their parents thn do the kids of post-reform Christianity."


Not in the Western world. It isn't much different here at all. When they can they make insular little mini-communities within western communities, but they don't hold together any more than the authoritarian communities in Christianity of the Hasidic Jewish communities and the like.

on Dec 22, 2006
The US is insolvent.

www.rocketboom.com/vlog/archives/2006/12/rb_06_dec_20.html
on Dec 22, 2006
The US is insolvent.

www.rocketboom.com/vlog/archives/2006/12/rb_06_dec_20.html


Such BS!
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