Where are you?

Interesting comment (and I agree), in that I was just thinking recently that there are no more S&Ls.  Has anyone seen one?  They are all mega banks now.  I prefer small banks, but every time I move to one, they are gobbled up by BOEB (Big Old Expensive Bank).

IN a pigs eye!  Not in my area at least.  I was in a meeting with the head IT guy of the county.  He lived in it as well.  And did not like the fact that the mortgage assessment program had only one direction. UP.  So I do not expect to see any tax relief from this band of blood suckers.

That is a good motto for charities, but not for government.  FOr it is that thinking that would have protected the buggy whip manufacturers from extinction long after the age of horse and buggy are gone. Should we stop Pre Fab housing because that will put some people out of work?  By your thinking we have to because we have to think of "all the buggy whip makers who have to feed their children".

Navy Bases and Marine Camps are a bit differnt.  At least security is visible, if not very effective.

As to your question, I guess it really did not matter.  Great going.

Yes to the first - on fixed rates, I dont know to the second, and on the third - I think that goes beyond ethics to criminal.  And like I said, if they broke the law, nail them!  I have no use for criminal lending practices, and I am sure there are some out there (and why we have laws to penalize them when they do break them).  But this is perhaps a small number of crimes, with a large portion of whines, and the whiners should not be given a Bail out of Debt free card.

Yea, make a bad situation worse.  No thanks.  GW said it. "If fraud...".  If not, then tough!  Those companies were providing a service and charging for it.  When you loan is "packaged", the law states the original terms of the loan applies (I had to get nasty with Suntrust on that one). So you agreed to the terms.  Now YOU (the imaginary person we all talk about) live by them.

At the finanical place you said there was nothing more than a glass wall separating the packet whackers from the management folks.  Potential clients/customers that come in to meet with management are going to see the network guys on the other side of that glass wall.  Chances are they're also going to be business folks who don't understand that in IT being the best groomed doesn't necessarily mean you're good at your job.  If they look through that window and see a bunch of long haired hippy freaks, it could hurt the company's ability to attract clients.  In that particular case, it doesn't matter that techs would likely never have direct contact with a customer, they're highly visible to the customers. 

Then there's GoDaddy where you're likely to never be seen by an outsider while working there.  It's a NOC, plain and simple.  Cables, parts, screw drivers scattered everywhere.  It didn't sound like a location where the company would be doing a lot of client-facing business.  Or if they do, it's nowhere near the network guys.  In that case, yeah, who cares what you look like so long as the work is done well?

Office environment is a big factor in what sort of appearance may be required.  Chances are, from how you described the layout of the work areas at the financial place (desks, no dividers, wide open, watched by management) it would have been a bad fit even if they didn't ask you to cut your hair.  The lack of technical questions on the job interview was a good indicator too.

I'm 32 years old and have been a professional in IT for 11 years.  I have always had long hair.  IN the 90's I think it actually HELPED me get some jobs.  it just put off the persona of "techie geek".  Kind of like "Whoa, if that guy is willing to come in here all confident with long hair, he must know his stuff".

My hair is also neat.  I dont wear it like a rock star.   It's always trimmed up around the ears, and worn in a pony tail (except on occasional where a hairdresser convinces me to cut it just short enough that i cant pull it back)

In any event, I've usually passed on any job who requested that I cut my hair.  It was never a matter of pride....more like "is this job worth me getting laid less?".  But these days it's just the principal of the matter.  I have an impressive resume, I'm intelligent and well-spoken, and my long hair is not eccentric and therefore should not be a determining factor in a job.   Any company who considers it such probably has different values in their people than i would like an employer to have.

All of that being said.  If i was out of work and couldn't pay the bills, i'd take the scissors out myself.

And you hit the nail on the head as to why we won't be giving elites exile access.  If we ever do pull in more moderators for JU, the selection process will be very rigorous.  We have several access ranks between elite and avatar that are specifically meant for moderation purposes. 

I'm the hardest workin' sum-beach you'd ever find in just about any job you give me, but of course you have to take the chance and give me the job to find that out (unless of course you call around and check my references and then you wonder how much I paid them to get them to speak so highly of me).

I would certainly have passed on the offer from the Financial firm mentioned here.  GoDaddy.com would have been intriquing and I might have walked for that were I you Greywar, but in the end, I've done the same that you have and stuck at some jobs a lot longer and remained more loyal much longer than maybe I should have.  Last time I really had the opportunity to take a counter offer and stay I didn't, but it was really all about future opportunities at that point, rather than not liking the job I had.

However, we did have an employee that left here and went to a big company.  He went from having long hair and a crazy beard to clean shaven and short hair.  Just didn't seem right.